Sunday, March 30, 2008

Time for New Ballgames

Our friends at the Boston Red Sox blog, Me and Pedro Down by the Ballpark, have asked us to share our thoughts on our Cleveland Indians as part of a team-by-team season preview feature called "Know Thy Enemy" that they have been running at their fine site. Given that our last baseball season ended at the hands of the Red Sox, thinking about the Indians in view of the team from Boston seems to be as good a way as any to start thinking about our team on opening day, so check out our preliminary thoughts on the 2008 Tribe here, at Me and Pedro.

6 comments:

Ben said...

You need a Phillies prediction.

bj said...

Pete,

Good article about the tribe over on Me and Pedro.

As far as Sox fans go:

Q: What's the difference between a Red Sox fan and a Yankee's fan?

A: About 25 championships.

While I don't see Cheif Wahoo in the same light as you do, I can understand why it makes you upset. The cartoon that you posted sums it up better than anything you could write. For me, the only acceptable change from Chief Wahoo would be if we went back to the Cleveland Spiders.

bj said...

This has been bugging me since I read your post yesterday.

Please explain to me how you can listen to, support, purchase and quote music which uses deragatory language such as: n&g%@r, ho, bitch, trick...etc. But when it comes to the Indians, year in and year out you tell us how awful it is to support Chief Wahoo.

Bryan said...

Q: What's the difference between a Red Sox fan and a Yankees fan?

A: 19 championships, thank you very much. We got 7!

Cleveland Frowns said...

bj:

Re: the difference between appreciating music that contains the terms "ho, trick, b*tch, etc." and Chief Wahoo as the logo of our city's Major League baseball team...

First, I don't suggest that any major league team name themselves the "hos, tricks, b*tch" etc.

Second, recognizing that some of these terms are different from/worse than others, and that I differentiate in my "support, purchase, quoting" of music in these terms, depending on which term you refer to, and depending on the use -- I will say that music/poetry/etc. that employs these terms in certain contexts can and does do so in a way that lends these terms an infinite number of meanings, some of which honor those described, which is believe is OK, if that is the impact which the use of the term has.

How does (could) Chief Wahoo honor Native Americans in any way? Even if it could be said to, in a (far-flung) way, is it likely that it does in view of the harmful impact?

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