We tuned in to last week's debate between Vice Presidential candidates Joe Biden and Sarah Palin, primarily to see if we could find any truth in the mainstream-media-fueled meme that Governor Palin is somehow any less qualified to be President of the United States than "community organizer," serial autobiographer, and career presidential candidate Barack Obama. Perhaps the reason we couldn't find the truth that we were looking for is that we found ourselves so terribly distracted by Senator Biden's hair; specifically, his front-to-back comb-over that might be the most unflattering 'do that we've seen on an American politician since James Traficant piled a dead possum on his scalp.
Concerned with Senator Biden's health and the health of Our Nation, we looked further into this issue, and in doing so gained some insight into how we might choose among the candidates for President this November. As a preliminary matter, we learned that Biden actually made a painful choice to make his hair look the way it does. Painful, in that he apparently underwent a surgical procedure to have hair follicles grafted from the back of his head (or somewhere else), to the front. The procedure likely involved the insertion of "hair plugs," each containing 15 to 30 hairs, "lined up to create a solid wall of hair."Why would Biden, a handsome enough fellow, undergo this painful procedure? In answering this question we might argue over whether Biden actually looks better with his combed over doll-hair than he would otherwise (though he quite objectively does not), but we simply must assume that he did it because he wanted to. Put another way, Biden went under the knife to have hair plugs inserted into his skull because he preferred his artificial comb-over over his natural baldness. He did not want to be bald.
Senator Biden is certainly not alone in his aversion to male-pattern baldness. Countless men seek "treatment" for this "condition" every year. So it's worth asking why so many men, including Biden, are so hesitant to let nature take its course in this way. A convincing explanation is offered by May Kasahara, a character in Haruki Murakami's classic novel, The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle. Ms. Kasahara offers that, "the reason people are afraid of going bald is because it makes them think of the end of life. . . . [W]hen your hair starts to thin, it must feel as if your life is being worn away . . . as if you've taken a giant step in the direction of death, the last Big Consumption." This, to us, goes a long way toward explaining why Biden (and those who seek similar "treatment") might think that his combed-over plugs look better than a more natural look.But baldness just can't be that bad. Or even bad at all. We all die. And we all grow older with each passing moment. Every successful religion on Earth counsels some degree of detachment to life here on Earth -- a certain fearlessness in the face of death. So doesn't this get us to the heart of the concept of "growing old gracefully"?
Indeed. There is an evolutionary argument that acceptance of one's baldness goes to the very essence of human "maturity." The theory, which is the most reasonable that we (and Wikipedia) have been able to uncover on the subject of baldness and evolution, suggests that "baldness evolved in males through sexual selection as an enhanced signal of aging and social maturity, whereby aggression and risk-taking decrease and nurturing behaviours increase. This may have conveyed a male with enhanced social status but reduced physical threat, which could enhance ability to secure reproductive partners and raise offspring to adulthood." This theory is supported by the fact that "some primate species clearly use an enlarged forehead, created both anatomically and through strategies such as frontal balding, to convey increased status and maturity;" and a study in which "males and females viewed 6 male models with different levels of facial hair . . and cranial hair. . . . Beards and a full head of hair were seen as being more aggressive and less socially mature, and baldness was associated with more social maturity." It should also be remembered that, as a general matter, humans have exponentially less hair than the apes from whom we evolved.
Male pattern baldness is a powerful message from nature about the temporality of our lives on Earth. And we see that there are two divergent ways in which a man might respond: Either by rejecting and/or repressing nature's message by attempting to hide one's baldness as Biden has gone to great lengths to do -- thus incidentally rejecting some good and potentially useful things, such as being perceived as being less aggressive, more socially mature, and a more suitable reproductive partner; Or by accepting one's baldness with grace, thus indicating acknowledgement of the natural limits of life on Earth as a human being.This is all especially relevant this election season because these divergent responses to male pattern baldness are so strikingly similar to the divergence between today's Democratic and Republican parties. At least this is so to those who understand this divergence as a direct result of the Democratic Party's apparent reluctance to accept nature's limits as demonstrated by its repeated insistence on making the perfect the enemy of the good -- just as Biden has made his hair plugs the enemy of a perfectly good scalp.
Due to this apparent failure to recognize that we live in a world of scarce resources, we are continually subject to policy objections by the Democratic machine that are based primarily on the fact that the world is not perfect. What else could explain their simplistic tropes? "How can we pay for a war abroad when there are poor people here in our country?" "Why go after Saddam when there are bad guys in other places too?" "How can we let these 'Benedict Arnold CEOs' take our jobs overseas?"* On this view, any human suffering can be explained as a failure of government to intervene in the right way. On this view, we must obtain the approval of the whole wide world before we go to war to protect ourselves, because we must maintain a perfect image abroad. No matter that those from whom we were to seek approval had incentives to see us harmed. And nevermind the good chance that we've accomplished something very good and useful by going forward without this approval that we were never going to get anyway.
Biden's hair plugs are an apt symbol of a Democratic Party that has spent most of the last four decades trying to convince America that things should be perfect, at the expense of making things better. They are a perfect symbol for the Democratic Party that is the party of the Hollywood elite. The party that is forever trying to restore the picture-perfect image of Kennedy's Camelot. This party would never accept George W. Bush because he didn't "look (or rather, talk) the part," just as it will not speak out against the socially regressive claims that a healthy 72-year old John McCain is "too old" to be our President.A failure to account for the natural limits of life on Earth -- and the consequent rejection of good and useful things that is so often incident to this failure -- is one thing when it comes to Joe Biden's decision to drill holes into his own scalp. But, as Joe Biden's hair-plugs remind us, the world is not a picture-perfect place, nor could it ever be.
One should take a good long look at those plugs before pulling the lever this November for a party that has so forcefully tried to convince us otherwise.
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*Footnote: Whatever else one party has over the other, aren't the Dems so much more likely to f*ck up in the Middle East? Whatever the problems in the U.S. economy now, even the New York Times recognizes that we're a part of the global economy too. And integration of the Middle East into the free global economy might do more for that economy, and our economy here, than any domestic policy possibly could -- and would make us forget about our current domestic 'crisis' in a hurry. We are the world. And a rising tide lifts all boats. At bottom, that is what the War in Iraq should be all about, and perhaps what it's always been about. 9/11 was proof that we, the world's strongest nation, should have focused on this integration sooner than we did. That the Democratic Party's tooth-and-nail opposition to everything about this War along every step of the way might demonstrates a willful parochially self-interested ignorance of this reality is something that we're painfully reminded of every time we see Senator Biden's hairline.
35 comments:
Amusing stuff frowns, and actually a lot more substance in there than I expected with regard to the implications of the acceptance of/resistance to baldness. Biden's hair does look bad.
But it doesn't look nearly as bad to me as the psychological portrait of McCain painted here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Wouldn't send it if I didn't think it was worth an honest read.
Curious to see what you think.
Cheers.
p.s. I expect a hard fight out of the Browns on Monday night. I think the Giants may hit their first speed bump.
Bald is beautiful in so many ways!
stick to sports.
that being said, does casting your first wife aside because she is on crutches (after going through a terrible accident) to marry a plastic surgery addict offset the hairplug argument? cheers to no more cindy mccain in hd.
You followed up an excellent post with this one. I guess we will forever agree to disagree on politics.
I love the Frowns.
oh frownie, perhaps i should never have requested non-football posts ;)
actually, i have a football request: how about my dores???? i think they have earned a post.
Spend 23 minutes in the Hall of Presidents at the Magic Kingdom, as I am certain Senator Biden and his horde of staffers, consultants, and aides have, and one may quickly learn why the Senator from Delaware has opted for plugs. Virtually all modern presidents (with the exception of Ike) had hair during their presidency and election bids, and the vast majority of early presidents were a bristly bunch as well (or at least donned a fuzzy, white wig in hair's stead). The Senator's life long obsession with becoming president has thus far resulted in two failed bids for his party's candidacy for president and several hours of surgery to look what his staffers think a president ought to look like.
I expected more from you, Frowns. It really doesnt matter at this point - the good ol' party can have Ohio. I think it's hilarious that you compare Palin to Obama when she couldn't even answer a question about which newspapers she reads because it wasn't one of her talking points. Community Organizers do more for this country than she's ever done. You're smarter than that.
This post is malarkey. Literally.
I cannot tell you how disconcerting it is to have a man of your intillect write such a one sided analogy that fits conveniently into your politcal ideology.
I can only sit here and wonder....are you serious? Are we talking about vanity here? Do you really want to compare Joe Biden to Sarah Palin?
Sarah Palin who ran for Miss Alaska the ultimate beauty pageant.
You seriously believe that she is more qualified to be president? Do you know how scary that is?
This is a woman whos international experience consists of being able to see Russia from her backyard, a woman who didn't have a passport until 2006.
I guess your right we shouldn't strive for a more perfect world. Matin Luther King should have given up.....women shouldn't be able to vote...gays shouldn't be able to have equal rights....all the poor people in the US should quit bitching and not expect more....oh no thats right, they are supposed to live by that largest of all republican ideals, to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and be held accountable for their actions regardless of the circumstances they are born in to. Just like the firms on wallstreet are being held accountable...right? Here is an analogy for you....Hugo Chavez taxes his people to fund a socialistic society..i.e. healthcare, education etc. The US is now taxing all of its citizens to prop up the wealthiest Socialism in reverse? Kinda seems like the people of both countries have taxation without representation. Money heading upstream from the poor to the rich? The 1% that control us all? Hey but we are free right?
And right...we shouldn't put value in the positions of the other countries in the world or as you call it "looking for their approval" We don't all live on this planet as human beings but rather one country/race/culture pitted vs. the next with our favorite country, the US, in charge. God I am so blinded by the liberal "gotcha" media!
And if you think we invaded Iraq to free its people? To protect ourselves? To do good? Oh thats right....they attacked us on 9/11....completely justified. It makes me PROUD to be an American knowing that 4000+ soldiers and untold numbers of innocent Iraqis have died as retribution for 9/11. But hey that surge is really working huh? I am sure its those soldiers preventing all the terroists from blowing themselves up and it has nothing to do with the sunnis starting to work with the goverment and turning on al queda. Yeah lets just keep 130,000 soldiers in Iraq....its the right thing to do. Hey but at least we have captured Osama.
Its not even about a "perfect" world...its about a just world.
or is all of this rambling just a bit too naive and simplistic?
Kinda like saying someone who puts weight in how they look is unfit to be president.
We have seen some below the belt hits from desperate Republicans this election season, but this might take the cake.
I would rather be a proud member of the party of dreamers than drone in an army of hypocrites.
Do Joe Biden's hairplugs look silly? Sure. But don't blame the Democrats for our nation's obsession with youth and beauty. Democrats might have impossible hope, but all that the Republicans have given us this year is doublespeak and double standards.
Hillary Clinton was the first woman to mount a serious campaign for the presidency. She was not my first choice, but she was a strong candidate for the job. Did Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the Republican media sources talk about her positions? No. They found the one picture where she looked drained and tired and asked America if we could really have such an haggard looking woman at the helm of our country. As all of the candidates hit the campaign trail, the majority of the media speculation was on how much weight Hillary had gained.
Blame the media for the ridiculous hairplugs, ageism, plastic surgery or anything that takes away from analyzing a campaign on anything other than the message. But if you belong to a party that trots out a vacant show pony (Palin) to add vibrancy to the campaign, and combat McCain's age and lack of vibrancy don't blame the Dems for picking a VP with hair plugs. You set the bar so high.
Hey, I love you man, you're awesome, but wow, you're also a total douchebag.
You know, just politically speaking.
Really though, I mean it. You are a douche of epic proportions.
These are your friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us&fmt=18
Anon after pronk's post,
Quick reminder IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11!!! Or did I miss the sarcasm? It is so had to tell via this medium. Otherwise, nice comment.
A few questions/comments for commenters:
1) How is the "foreign policy experience" of Obama any more significant than Palin's?
2) Where did we say that we shouldn't strive for a more perfect world?
3) Could someone point out an instance of bi-partisan leadership on Obama's part that is comparable to Palin's standing up against Big Oil in Alaska, or to her vetoing anti-gay legislation as Mayor of Alaska. Let's not argue about the extent of her standing up to Big Oil. Assume she did so even a little. When has Obama done anything comparable with respect to an entrenched power within his own party? (Hint: Never).
4) We've explained over and over again here why Iraq and 9/11 are connected, and why it's willful ignorance to deny that this is so. See, for example: http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/2008/09/911-memorial-sportsbook-special.html Would be nice if commenters addressed this argument instead of sarcastically ranting about the fact that Saddam wasn't flying one of the planes.
5) We never called anyone a "douche," or any mean name. Are you trying to be mean? Isn't that rude? Also, isn't douche just liquid that cleans a female reproductive organ? Isn't that a good thing? What's wrong with "douche"? Isn't it sexist to use the term "douche" as an insult? Gosh.
6) Finally, we'll just note that there's a huge difference between saying that someone doesn't "look the part," as commenters here are apparently misinterpreting us to have said, and pointing out that a way that a person CHOOSES to react to nature might say something more about that person and the political party that's CHOSEN him as a representative. Think the key word here is "CHOICE."
Thanks for the comments, folks. You keep em coming and we will too.
I'll get to the substance of your post later -- but as for reference to the Kiplin-esque Just So Story about the evolutionary explanation of male-pattern baldness: How would a trait that typically doesn't manifest itself until well after the carrier has passed his reproductive prime secure more reproductive partners?
This is about as well thought-out as the rest of the post, which I'll address later.
Oh and I quickly looked at some of your follow-up questions, as for question #1 -- he is on the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee. But that doesn't matter, as everybody knows by now, this election isn't about experience, it's about mental capability. No matter how much experience Palin has, she will always be Sarah Palin. And McCain's 30 years of experience has resulted in a wash, considering he's sold out every principle he stood for during those 30 years over the course of the last 4 months.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/1574576278_842b8978b1.jpg?v=0
pick one.
Light: Turn it on.
A lot of men start going bald in their early 20s, and most can reproduce until they die. And anyway, the theory doesn't depend on the trait emerging during the reproductive prime. Could have just as easily emerged so men could reproduce after they passed this "prime" you speak of.
And a Congressional Committee as foreign policy experience is a huge laugher. OF COURSE the Dems would appoint Obama to the Foreign Relations Committee as soon as they could because they knew they might be running him for President. If anything, it underscores his lack of foreign policy experience. Pray tell what Obama did on that Committee, or what, if anything, that Committee has accomplished? Recall that Obama only visited the Middle East a few months ago, and only in response to the public outcry that he'd never been there. My guess is that we could learn just as much from reading a few books and checking on some good blogs than we'd learn from serving on that Committee.
Why are all republicans seemingly the same? I swear it is as if Bill O'Reilly taught a "How to be a republican" class on how to twist words and infuriate people. Have you really convinced yourselves that what you wrote makes any sense? This was a new low...I realize and appreciate that republicans are grabbing at straws to make up for the fact that Palin is really not the best choice, but I expect more from you. Now I am still left with the impression that republicans are all the same: ignorant.
Frowns,
There are football games tomorrow...the election is still a few weeks away...refocus here buddy!!
I am with kylmra - let's talk about this week's football. Feel free to give the Deacs a shout-out.
How could you bet against such a sure thing?
"Why are all republicans seemingly the same?"
Good question. Could it be because they are all so right about Obama? I suppose it depends on your perspective.
We have a question: Why are most anonymous commenters seemingly the same? The same in that so many of them do not so much as attempt to address the substance of the post, but instead, just level personal insults, and conclusory condescending admonitions: "I expect better from you." What's better? To pick your guy? WHY?
Also, don't worry Mra and Kev...we've got a solid slate of picks coming at you this weekend. College football should be up by tonight or tomorrow morning, and NFL tomorrow night or Sunday morning.
Frowns -- as for your baldness just so story, please. We're talking over the evolutionary time scale here, where people had much shorter life spans and got their reproduction on much earlier in life. If you think subconscious attaction mechanisms have evolved over the short course of, say, 100 years where the fertile octogenarian has become a reality, then I can't help you. And the 'plenty of people' going bald in their 20s isn't enough to drive such a purportedly strong trait.
But we're not here to bury Kipling -- as for your 'even though Obama is on the most powerful foreign relations committee in the world (save, maybe, the UN), he still has no experience in foreign relations,' then I guess we're left to assume that nobody ever gets any exerpience doing anything, which I guess I'm OK with -- I vote on general abilities and not political 'seasoning', anyway. But if you still insist on the importance of a track record, I invite you to look at his work in nuclear (that's "new-clear," Sarah)proliferation, particularly with Lugar.
Light: News flash. Bald men have been fathering children for a lot longer than 100 years.
As for "abilities," some would say that, to the extent that Palin is less intelligent than Obama, her moral profile compared to his still makes her more qualified -- Ayers and Wright come immediately to mind, as does Obama's lockstep partisan opposition to Iraq.
One doesn't have to be smarter than someone else to make better choices than that person. I direct you to question 3) of the 10:55 comment we made last night, and the silence that has followed it.
There's a good argument that Obama's more of a beauty pageant contestant than Palin ever was.
Frowns, we've already had 8 years of " I ain't too bright but I pray every day".
Really Frowns, stick to sports. You're embarrassing yourself much like the Browns do most weeks... full of promise and short on points.
Frowns is not embarrassing himself. Come on, guys: this is a post about hair plugs. Do you really think that he's voting Republican because the silliness of hair plugs, or — just maybe — he's teasing hair plugs because he's voting Republican? Let's all take a deep breath and laugh this election season. If this was a monologue, which in some sense it is, we'd be in stitches right now.
The only thing I will say directly to Frowns is that I'm working on a post that takes on your "10:55 objections," much along the lines of the email I sent you a couple weeks ago, which will probably get a new, better discussion started — that or everyone will call me a "douche," "naive and simplistic" and my writing "malarkey."
Frowns, I really enjoyed the way you weaved this post together with hair plugs, the Middle East, the global economy, and whatnot - but like most other readers, I'm pretty disappointed in your take.
We can argue the merits and track records of each candidate until we're blue in the face (or bald on the head), but we lose sight of what we're tasked with, which is to find the best candidate for the job given the choices we have (which is an important distinction, because the choices we have aren't always ideal). It's like getting into college - great day when you get the letter, until you realize that you have to work 4 more years to actually earn a degree.
We can tear Obama and McCain apart and line up track records and compare Joe Biden's direct, informed, and charming persona to Sarah Palin's embarrassing agenda-pushing farce of a performance (and by the way, it's sad that she exceeded expectations by all, including Republican party members, when the bar was set so tragically low for her in the first place). The bottom line is, who do we want moving this country forward. Who do we trust to begin turning around a financial crisis we have gotten ourselves into that EVERYONE is responsible for helping to create. Who is going to be able to sit at the table (pre-conditions or not) with the leaders of this free world and earn their respect once again? Who will have the energy, the vitality, the ambition, and the good judgment to create an Administration that will again embody American ideals? These are the criteria we should be thinking about as we head into the final month of the election.
In my no-stats, no selective supporting evidence, no-nonsense opinion, John McCain is an honorable man whose ship sailed in 2000 (and yes, blame Bush for playing dirty in the primaries), and the Republican party, to the point of Anonymous 10/9, 9:10 pm, has resorted to desperate tactics to keep him in the running. Sarah Palin is an ignorant pawn who got a lucky break. As a woman, I am happy to see that we have progressed to considering women for high offices, but frankly, I would be embarrassed to have this vapid sham of a woman representing me.
I do believe that given the choice we are presented with, Barack Obama and Joe Biden would bring the solutions and the vitality we so desperately need, and I hope that voters turn out in droves to reflect this point. If nothing else, let's call shenanigans on the McCain/Palin ticket, which is nothing more than a poorly-orchestrated Republican attempt to pander to the groups they need the most.
Here's a tangentially related question: Is it illegal to offer someone money for their vote? If it is, is it illegal to accept the money? Not coercion, and not an employer or the candidate herself, or someone paid by the candidate, just a 1 on 1 transaction. Like, Frowns gives me $5 Canadian and I vote for McCain?
I realized earlier today that I actually have no idea the answer to this question. Part of me thinks it has to be illegal, but then the other part of me thinks that law would have to be unconstitutional. I also have never seen a law against it, of course, I haven't looked. Fundamentally, it is no different than giving someone a ride to the polling place b/c you expect them to vote for your candidate or issue. Any ideas you crazy political Frowns readers?
Frowns,
regarding some of your points made in the comments...
3) Obama stood up against and went toe to toe with the MOST ENTRENCHED power within his own party -- they're called the Clinton family.
4) There is surely a 'connection' as you say, but it's willful ignorance to be undeterred by the fact that Bush & John McCain lied through their teeth about the extent of the connection between Saddam and Islamist terrorists. When you say that it doesn't matter that government leaders lied to collect public support for a war that was then fought under the guise of promoting free and open societies and markets, you are willfully ignoring a steaming pile of hypocrisy... my frendsh.
6) Since the middle east is everything, as you say, we should really find out how many neo-con interventionists, and others shaping the approach to middle east policies that you endorse, have wigs, hair pieces, plugs etc. Then take a thorough look at the heads of the many men who oppose them and see what the numbers bear out. After all, I'm sure you'd agree it's all about the ideas themselves. If there are more neo-con's attempting to conceal baldness than their are democrats/doves, would you reconsider any of your positions?
Look forward to the picks.
Since this is a sports blog, it makes sense that the writer would support the candidate who strongly supports sports. Sure, Obama plays basketball. But has he ever raised taxes so that more people could play basketball?! No! LAME! Palin, on the other hand, raised taxes in her hometown so that a new hockey stadium should be built. Clearly, she is the best choice for sports fans, because she understands that taxes are only good for one thing: More Sports!
Gimme a P!
Gimme an A!
Gimme an L!
Gimme an I!
Gimme an N!
Gooooo! Palin!
From this full extension, I can see Russia! Yay!
Touche Quaint..... much funnier than Frowns with about a tenth of the those wordy things that need to be put in order.
It’d be nice to see more of an open mind from such intellect, Frowns. I thought it was the Dems who are characterized by being the “big thinkers”? I’ll agree with KA: “John McCain is an honorable man whose ship sailed in 2000.” And Palin scares me…Creationism? C’mon…My father’s a pastor and would side with me on this one…
Smitty said it best, “we’ll have to agree to disagree.” This has got to be one of the largest responses that I’ve seen on this site for a while and I wish that some of these anonymous pepes would reveal themselves!
GO BUCKS
KA: "Vapid sham of a woman"? That's gross.
Josh: Good point re: anons. You'd think they could at least come up with consistent nom de plumes -- like Mencken. Though we're troubled that someone would sully the name of such a great American citizen by resorting to personal attacks to make "arguments." The real Mencken would not approve. What even is "creationism" though, and how is it relevant? You know as well as anyone that such a term can be interpreted in so many ways.
Finally, Big Dood: Obama running against the Clintons in a primary has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about re: taking on entrenched power. Moreover, the party machine/media was all behind Obama, so the Clintons were hardly entrenched in this respect.
As for your question: "If there are more neo-con's attempting to conceal baldness than their are democrats/doves, would you reconsider any of your positions?"
Yes. Is there a think tank somewhere that's on top of this research? Hope so.
Hair plugs on Senator Biden : simply another Democrat who wishes to portray someone he isn't. Personally, I'm bald and most of the baldies I know are confident in how we're made and/or what we've lost.... some people shave there heads cause there loosing there rug anyway, some shave um to support a friend with cancer.... bust my chops about thin hair or a shaved head, I'll simply tell ya to 'go f*ck yourself.'
Senator Biden may just be insecure, in a desperate act for public approval hair plugs were his answer instead of, once again, simply saying something along the lines of 'I'm in the US Senate Bitches - my hair is tight and just the way i like it.' Be real dude and i might consider hearing what you've got to say.
To quickly expand in a general 'keepin it real' way : Senator Obama who studied Constitutional Law at Harvard of all places should have learned/read what the Constitution says.... But for some reason wants to preach on what it 'could say' or 'should say.'
In all the years since this great document was written, it has been amended 16 times and one of those 16 could very well be overturned by the next Supreme Court Justice appointment. If we were supposed to have limits on the people instead of limits on our government, the constitution would read more like the 1852 document written by Carl Marx's.... google it dummies and educate yourselves. Not only do i recommend reading it, but also make a conscious attempt at understanding it. The message will be an eye opener, I promise for both Dem's and Rep's.
Any rational minded, free thinking man or woman will see the ideology/relationship from which Senator Obama's idea's are based..... he has not been the first nor will he be the last person to have and hold these beliefs. If there is a track record which has tested the stand of time..... it our constitution.
Those of you still bitchin about Iraq..... read up on the Bath Party Ideology, you haven't seen CNN even mention it and you won't.
And last but not least, since this is mostly a sports site, let us mention the mascots for the two parties..... why would anyone want to be a jackass?
Dig our post Flown Clown.... keep it real
KA - most of this was for you
Here we go Brownies Here we go.... woof wwwooof
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