Tony Schaeffer, Mike Randall, Patrick McManamon, and the rest of you, have a look at yourselves:
You say you want big change, but big change is exactly what you got when Mangini was hired in the off-season. The wholesale reconstruction is underway. A project this big takes time, especially when you have to ditch some of your very most talented players because they're massive jerks. It doesn't happen overnight. Sorry. And you can't have a unicorn, you can't have a golden goose, and you can't have creambuns and donuts for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
How could anyone buy the emo take on this protest?
Sometimes, when you've been let down, hurt, disappointed and ticked off so many times, you just need to know that you're being heard. You want someone to acknowledge that yes, they recognize and understand your frustration, and they're trying to do something about it.Cry a g*ddam river, emo Browns fan. Trying to do something about it is exactly what Mangini has done since he got here. And he tells us that he understands our frustration every week. This kind of public complaining before giving the guy a chance to rebuild the team doesn't help anything, and if anything, only undermines the new regime's credibility and distracts from the task at hand.
You Veruca Salts should be ashamed of yourselves. The people in this video would never have done what you're doing now.
You should stop.
UPDATE: A pair of reader emails are worth sharing here:
From Bryan Joiner:
"Your revolutionary take of "let the coach do his job" is spot-on."And from Craig Lyndall, of Waiting for Next Year:
"While I agree with 100% of what you are saying, am I correct in saying that nobody should confuse your post as a guarantee that Mangini will be successful? . . . Preaching patience to give a guy a chance is in no way a defense of each and every one of his moves, nor is it a guarantee that he will be successful at the end of the day."Absolutely, Craig. That should go without saying, but we understand that Veruca is really hard to reason with. Thanks, and keep up the great work, both of you.
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Can't stop the Seethers, Frowner.
Way to post the exact same thing with a different picture.
Cleveland frowns in 1982----
Just Give Ted Stepien some time you g*ddamn ignorant Cavs favs!!!! Sure he's fired three coaches and the play by play man but your whining won't change anything!!!! He is trying as hard as he can!!!! You people make me sick!!!
Frownie,
For someone who understands who ingrained the Browns are into the culture of Northeast Ohio, I can't believe you are chastizing people for venting their frustrations. You can disagree with their methods, but to call them out and say they are somehow out of bounds for doing what they're doing....I'm just surprised.
And Cedric's post makes a very valid point.
GO Cedric!
I prefer sweeeeeet rolls on a daily basis!
I'm chastizing because it's completely counterproductive. It wouldn't be out of bounds if Mangini wasn't currently starting a massive reconstruction project. But he is, and these people are undermining it without giving it a snowball's chance in hell. Where were these people last year? Now they can get on TV, so now they're yelling. It's an embarrasment.
Smitty, a picture is worth a thousand words. And this moving picture is worth a lot more. I'm not surprised at all that it's lost on you, or that you'd cheer on a guy like Cedric, who apparently has no idea just how bad Ted Stepien was.
To pretend like I'm a Lerner apologist is just dumb.
You guys really do deserve the worst, sadly. Nice work.
The post has been updated with quotes from two of our most reasonable readers. You bots should read it.
THESE PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME, THEREFORE THEY ARE REASONABLE AND I WILL POST THEIR THOUGHTS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY. BECAUSE POSTING ONLY THE SUPPORTERS IS THE BEST WAY TO CONDUCT A TOP NOTCH BLOG.
Jesus.
I mean really. Jesus
Hopefully we dont have to read another 'biffed' analysis on Monday about the Cavs weekend. Take care of this please, write your own writeup frowns.
Hey Cedtardo, your views are already blown up all over SI and ESPN.
Anyway, not all views are created equal, and one way not to run a top notch blog is to post retarded ones, I'm sure.
HEY! Where's your blog, anyway!? Is it top notch?
Jesus. Really. Jesus.
And we stand 100% behind Biff's Cavs writeups.
Keep up the great work on the Cavs, Biff.
Counterproductive? Does that mean fans should never boo their own players. Does that mean bloggers should never write critical pieces? Because those things don't actually inspire change. They just antagonize. For better or for worse, our sports franchises don't actually listen to us. Still, we let them know what's on our minds because it's all a part of what makes being a fan so enjoyable.
Would you chastize someone who yells at his tv during a game on the grounds that "they can't actually hear you?"
And frankly, I think apathy in the face of incompetence is far more embarassing for a fan base than voicing displeasure. I'd much rather be an Oakland Raider fan (a base that constantly acts out in the face of Al Davis's atrocities) than a Charlotte Bobcats fan (virtually silent in the face of a terrible owner and a figurehead GM).
I like it when Cleveland fans let the rest of the world know that we're not stupid, we care, and we're not just going to sit back and take sh*t without firing back.
hey Biff FYI..they cannot hear you when you yell at the tv. Are you a 'tard or something?
Biff, you're giving us populism at its worst here.
Obviously, we yell at our TV a lot. And you know we're not saying any of the rest.
For the fiftieth time, though: Why this particular brand of criticism is so offensive is that all that it amounts to is complaining that a massive reconstruction project is hard.
Explain to me why that isn't the height of idiocy?
yes im with whoever said it before If i have to read one more article from that biff guy on how mike brown sucks as a coach I will shoot myself
Hey Jon, maybe somebody would believe that you aren't actually the same anonymous Biff hater that posted here before if you registered for a blogger account. Even then though, I'd be skeptical.
Booing your players isn't necessarily counterproductive. Staging a late walk-in to an owner like Lerner is counterproductive. Lerner makes mistakes. Eric Mangini might eventually be viewed as a mistake. Still, Lerner replaced his organization from the bottom up after Crennel and Savage went 4-12 last year following a 10-6 season.
The time for protest is not directly following a 100% change in the organization. Lerner may not have the proper structure in place, but it is too early to tell. It isn't like these guys have been in place or are understaffed like the Bengals and the Who Dey Revolution complain about.
There really is no point in this protest. The owner showed with his email that he gets it and realizes that the results on the field are abysmal and hardly worth investing your money in. He was willing to make a change to try and address that. People attempting to draw conclusions about the success or failure of Mangini this early are delusional.
If you just don't like Mangini that is fine, but he was hired and any coach inheriting this roster with this many cancers would have needed three years to change it around and inject the right kind of talent back into the roster.
Talk to me this time next year when we have our first look at the second year of Alex Mack, Brian Robiskie and Mo Massoquai in addition to the 11 people Mangini drafts next year combined with whoever he gets in free agency. You all might be right that Mangini is an egotistically inept coach. Still, drawing that conclusion today is premature and ill-advised.
Because many fans, myself included, don't look at this team as one in the infancy of another rebuild. We look at it as one that has been one of the worst in sports for more than a decade and has given us no reason to believe that anything will change anytime soon. So they brought in a new regime? Woopdedoo. They do that every few years. You know why? Because they're a horrid organization. The problems with this organization run so deep thatI just have no reason to think yet another new regime attempting yet another rebuild will yield different results.
Organizations like the Browns don't rebuild...just like the Clippers don't rebuild, and the Lions don't rebuild, and the Pirates don't rebuild. These organizations are crippled from the top down.
Some people in this town have had a love affair with the Browns going back decades. Guys like Paul Brown, Otto Graham, Jim Brown, Bernie Kosar . . . they built a connection with the fans here that is just unseverable.
So when I see Randy Lerner taking that connection and abusing it, it makes me mad. He's a crappy owner, okay? That's why his organization stinks. We're not rebuilding. We're an annual joke. That fact is really hurtful to a lot of people and you shouldn't chastize them for expressing their anger.
Craig, I understand your point, but don't play the "Lerner is doing everything he can" card because it's not true.
Has Lerner slashed ticket prices? No, because no owner would do that, right? But theoretically they could. If they wanted to let the fanbase know they felt the fans' pain, they could. But they don't because they're running a business.
Did Lerner get up on the podium next to Mangini and say "this is our guy...this is the guy that can turn this organization around and here's why?" No, he didn't. He didn't say a word at the press conference. An e-mail is no substitute.
How many do-overs should the organization get before the fans can rightfully say, "You know what, I don't care that you fired the coach. Until you show me that you've broken this cycle of atrociousness, I'm going to scream at the top of my lungs that you suck."
And what is the consolation to the fans while Lerner spends 10 or 20 years trying to build a respectable franchise? It's easy to say, "well, if they don't like it, they can stay away." Well unfortunately, the Browns have a bit of a monopoly on pro football in this town. It's not quite that simple.
What makes him a crappy owner? he has tried a new regime every time a new has failed. mangini is not even halfway his first season and you want to stage a walkout? thats rediculous if you ask me.
I mean i understand the frustration everyone is feeling, but just dont see how a protest on a monday night football game is going to cure anything, dont buy tickets for a whole year and then maybe see some change from the top?
theres really no easy answer, but i agree biff that at least we care enough to show our disappointment.
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