Ozzie Newsome should stop talking about Art Modell and the Hall of Fame

by Cleveland Frowns on May 6, 2011

Back in January when the finalists for 2011 induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame were announced, it seemed that great progress had been made when, unlike in the prior year, nobody really batted an eyelash that Art Modell wasn’t on the list. It seemed that retired Washington Post columnist Len Shapiro and Baltimore radio personality Nestor Aparicio had been the last two people on earth who didn’t understand the rule that if you rip history’s most beloved pro football franchise away from its home for no reason but your own self interest, you don’t get to be in pro football’s Hall of Fame, even if you’re otherwise the best guy there is.

But as long as the Baltimore Ravens franchise exists, there’s always the danger that someone in those parts will look past this rule about halls of fame and go on and say something thunderingly regressive about Art Modell. Which is to say that the fact that Modell signed Ozzie Newsome’s paychecks for the better part of two decades makes this a little bit easier understand.

Baltimore Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome is concerned that Art Modell won’t be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame until after the former Ravens and Cleveland Browns majority owner is dead.

“I don’t know what we can do,” Newsome said tonight during a conference call with [Ravens] season ticket holders [yesterday]. “My biggest fear is once he passes away then he’ll get the opportunity to go in. I don’t think that’s fair.”

Right, Mr. Newsome. It wouldn’t be fair if Modell got into the Hall of Fame after he was dead, either; and what you all can do down in Baltimore is stop worrying about Art Modell ever getting in at all, because if Browns Nation ever had to live through an Art Modell induction ceremony, it would be the most painful and widely delivered fuck you moment in modern sports history. Much worse than the greatest hometown basketball free agent of all time deciding to exercise his free agency to leave his championship starved hometown play somewhere else, and also worse than Modell’s decision to leave with the Browns in the first place, because it wouldn’t just represent one man’s decision to exercise his rights at the absurdly grossly disproportionate expense of so many others. It would also be a collective blow to millions of Browns fans, and everybody else who believes in the applicable principle, from a committee of people from all over the nation who were expressly chosen by civilization to perform a fundamental gatekeeping function to keep precisely this sort of thing from happening.

Ozzie, you just can’t hate us that much. It’s understood that Modell gave you one of the best jobs that anybody could ever hope to have, and that he might otherwise be as decent a guy as anybody. And again, we might feel differently if Modell’s supporters could even start to explain why he had no choice but to move the Browns when he did, and why he couldn’t take the issue to the polls if the politicians were really giving him such a bad deal. But nobody’s ever even started to do that, so in the meantime please understand that people who stand against Modell’s induction into the Hall of Fame are standing for something much more important. And however difficult it could be for Modell and his family have to bear the cost of this stand, consider that they have some $500 million to help soften the blow, and also a Super Bowl ring.

Also remember that Modell actually said at the time of the move that: “All the national furor over this, compared to other teams moving, is something of a reflection of how I marketed the team on a national basis;” And watch this video again, and this one, and especially this one; Join this facebook group; And please just stop talking about Art Modell and the Hall of Fame. It’s just no way to treat people.

  • J

    Say what you will about Tony Grossi’s reporting, he does his job as a HOF voter.

    • Anonymous

      Fact. Which goes right to just how simple this issue really is and gives me hope that Ozzie will understand as soon as he steps outside of himself for a millisecond to think about it.

    • Anonymous

      you just ruined my morning by making me realize grossi is a HOF voter

  • Anonymous

    FrOrange.

    Think for a minute….Modell wasn’t that bad. He wanted a new stadium for years. He recognized the market for live sport attendance had changed in quality. The city kept promising a new stadium, but kept acting like they could put Modell off as long as they liked. Remember when Mike White left Modell standing at second base without an audience when Modell was ready to make a presentation about plans for a new stadium? Typical of Cleveland adminstration, the city officials neglected quality in favor vulgar self-interest and primitive risk-reward. The Slum Mentality.

    Modell called the city’s hand. Cleveland didn’t deserve an intelligent and hard-edged businessman. Cleveland is better represented by Mike White, Lillian Greene and other subnormals like Frank Celebrezze.

    (Did I ever publish the story about his Law-1 writing assignment? It’s priceless)

    Loss of Modell represents the loss of an intelligent (and hard) corporate management capability.

    • Anonymous

      fellow readers, now is a good time to get familiar with some of this sites features.

      specifically, at the bottom left of this ridiculous comment there is a “Flag” button. When shit like this is said, you flag it as inappropriate, which will expedite the removal of such offensive garbage.

      • Anonymous

        Chuck….you stop that. You are having a bad day. Now you just put your head down and have a rest. Just to show there are no hard feelings, I’m going to “liked” your comment.

        Now, now. Someone needs a cookie….

        • Anonymous

          Grundstein, I can’t believe I have to spell this out for you but local mega millionaires like Modell have at least as much responsibility to the people as the people’s elected representatives, as they’re directly and significantly responsible for the state of affairs that caused the elected to be elected in the first place.

          No matter what Mayor White or whomever else did (and again, nobody’s trying to put White or whomever else into any halls of fame), Modell could have taken the issue to the people, and had he done so properly, the people would have made sure he’d have gotten a fair deal to stay in town before they’d have fed their own kids. Absent any showing that Modell made a reasonable effort to do this instead of just skipping for Baltimore’s millions (one press conference at second base doesn’t count), he doesn’t get to be in the hall.

          • Anonymous

            Could you say that again? I’d like it spelled out…

            Thanks. You’re a pal.

          • Believelander

            It’s spelled “g, o, space, b, a, c, k, space, t, o, space, p, I, t, t, s, b, u, r, g, h, period, space, p, l, e, a, s, e, period.”

          • Anonymous

            to see how hit should have been handled, just look at how the Maloofs (who certainly have their own set of problems) are handling their situation. they have been very open about their sincere need for upgraded facilities and their available options to move.

            instead, he went with his secretive dirtbag approach.

            btw, his big reason to be mad at the city is that they did not provide him a renovation of municipal, which we sought. i cannot imagine any renovation to municipal that would have possibly rendered suitable by todays standards. hence, he would still be holding the city hostage today for a new stadium (if he had not since taken up an offer to move to Baltimore or LA or wherever).

            (and in hindsight now knowing that a renovation plan was so dumb it calls into question the notions of the city being incompetent and modell being a savvy businessman….and the entire notion of modell being some savvy businessman because he took a free, taxpayer paid $250 million stadium….you can’t teach that type of genius!)

          • Anonymous

            THAT’s interesting. I’m gonna look into that.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks Chuck, I’m gonna flag the shit outta that guy.

    • Anonymous

      grunds – you couldn’t be more wrong on the facts but even if you were right – a statement like this – “cleveland didn’t deserve an intelligent and hard-edged businessman” – (1) makes no sense; (2) is offense on its face; and (3) confuses unbridled greed with business acumen.

      also i don’t see how a law-1 writing assignment can possibly be relevant to anything (including the practice of law).

      • Anonymous

        former-p,

        is that “patently offensive” rubric? My my….

        Modell presided over a good organization for a long time. The city didn’t adapt to changed conditions and the affluence that was influencing the consumption of sports. Sports were subject to a new, gentrified/corporate approach to live attendance. Modell wanted to adapt, but the city showed him contempt because they thought he would never leave.

        The city neglected to respect and support quality. The city executives have always been better with securing their own income than maintaining and improving the area. It’s in the culture of Cleveland. It’s what it does and tends to do. See Rockefeller et. seq….Welcome to the underclass in charge. Plato’s Republic on it’s face…..

        Celebrezze is representative of the institutionalized bias against intelligence and duty. I mean, anyone judge who plagiarized his entire first year paper, and got caught doing it, shouldn’t be an appellate judge.

        He should be licking out septic tanks somewhere.

        • Anonymous

          If you’re right, Modell could and should have gone past the elected reps to take it to the people himself. He didn’t. That’s all there is to talk about as far as his HOF candidacy goes.

          Talking about the rest is fine and actually interesting, but it has nothing to do with whether Modell belongs in the HOF or not.

        • Believelander

          Modell -should- be licking out septic tanks somewhere, but in lieu of justice we can keep him out of the hall of fame instead.

    • http://twitter.com/jimkanicki jim kanicki

      no one was stopping him from building a stadium were they? just because the city GAVE him a stadium that came with another tenant for 81 dates doesn’t necessarily mean they had to give him another one. particularly after he’d treated his primary tenant as a sharecropper.

      can you imagine being GIVEN an 80,000 seat stadium with scheduled events no less than 91 dates/year? your job is to keep it presentable. in return you get parking, food/beverage, and ad revenues in addition to the rent you collect from your tenants, one of whom is yourself.

      all you have to is not eff it up. all you have to is not screw your tenant. hell all you have to do is say yes to participating in the gateway project instead of trying to block it with the transparent motive of perpetuating the screw job of the indians. but you asked for ‘improvements,’ the city agreed. (can anyone think of another rent collector who doesn’t pay for his own improvements?) having asked for and then having received what was asked for, he then covertly entered into separate negotiations with maryland demonstrating bad-faith negotiations with local government. (and thus the pattern of screw jobs is repeated only this time on the taxpayers and residents of NEO.)

      we can argue whether an NFL franchise is truly a private enterprise which should be unfettered by govt oversight or more of a public utility or limited monopoly and so should have a lawful mandate to serve the community from which it profits. we can debate whether cleveland/ohio taxpayers should have ante’d up more given that the bar was set with other communities’ actions.

      but i would hope we can agree that art modell’s performance as owner of the browns is not worthy of recognition in any hall of fame.

      Alright god we are seriously sick can we please never have to write about this again.

    • Mcp1126

      rgrunds,

      If Modell was/is such a good business man, why did he have to sell the team a mere four or 5 years after the sweetheart deal he got from the city of Baltimore to move the team. One of his stated reasons for moving was so the team could stay with the Modell family after his eventual death. He needed money in a bad way at the time of the move and thought the only way to keep that controlling interest was to move. He had plenty of people that were willing and able to help him out here in Cleveland but he was stubborn and too proud to cede some control.

      We can all sit around and talk about how the city screwed him, but in reality it was his own bad business decisions that led him down that road.

  • Anonymous


    Maybe it would be different if Modell’s supporters could even start to explain why he had no choice but to move the Browns when he did, and relatedly why he couldn’t take the issue to the people if the politicians were really giving him such a bad deal. But nobody’s ever started to do that, so in the meantime please understand that people who stand against Modell’s induction into the Hall of Fame are standing for something much more important. ”

    so until they do that you will beat the drum for him not to make the hall of fame??

    don’t get me wrong, i don’t believe he is HOF worthy either, but not because he moved the team. I believe there are just a handful of owners in the HOF. While Modell has a few championship rings, not sure that he achieved enough in the boardroom to warrant being hall-of-fame worthy, regardless of moving the team or not..

    • Anonymous

      You’re smart.

    • Anonymous

      And that’s why you’re Biki and everyone else wishes that you were banned for life here.

      • Anonymous

        pay your debts junkie!!

        • Anonymous

          hahahaha

      • Brian Sipe

        HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA take that Bikster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Tell me how my A&^ taste!”

        • Anonymous

          He won’t be able to tell you that or anything else here for at least the next 96 hours so maybe you should text him or send him a facebook message or something.

      • Anonymous

        I love you Frownie and I am usually in favor of your judgements, but a gadfly is an important asset. Please do not ban Biki.
        “I am that gadfly attached to the state, and all day long and in all places am always fastening upon you, arousing and persuading and reproaching you.”
        Socrates

        • Anonymous

          Bless your bleeding heart, Acto. If you could explain to me the difference between a gadfly and a troll and why Biki is one and not the other, we might get somewhere. Here’s for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

          • Anonymous

            To quote my favorite movie, “I was misinformed.”
            When you said troll I thought of trolling for walleye around Pelee Island and my secret reefs to the east. (I miss Cleveland.)
            My apologies Frownie, I will stay out of it.
            However, if it is not too much to ask, while I appreciate the sentiment, please do not bless my heart.
            It is merely a lump of coal and it is “two sizes too small”.

    • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M
    • Anonymous

      Biki, you have real acumen.

  • TT

    I am going to keep posting this until Art Modell and those supporting his bit for the HOF get it thru their thick skulls!! IF……IF….IF Art Modell EVER, EVER, EVER gets into the HOF, I guarantee the following acts WILL BE SET IN MOTION:

    1) The HOF will be carefully and deliberately broken into to insure nothing is damaged.

    2)ALL….ALL…ALL of Art Modell’s memoribilia will be sought out, collected and removed.

    3)Said memoribilia will be destroyed OFF SITE to preclude the possibility of damaging anything nearby.

    4) Those responsible will turn themselves in to authorities.

    5) The next “team” will move to “stand by” status.

    ART MODELL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE HALL OF FAME!!

    • Anonymous

      Whatever it takes, man.

    • Anonymous

      TT, the memorabilia should be buried at sea within 24 hours.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Art Modell makes Dan Gilbert look like Ghandi.

    /waits for the sound of Frowns’ head exploding

    • Anonymous

      Ghandi Theresa King Jr. Christ, actually.

  • Scott

    Long time lurker first time poster. If Art ever gets in the HOF i will vomit. I have fond memories watching browns games with my dad when i was little. After Art moved the team my dad lost all desire to watch sports, even after the browns came back. Needless to say when i am having a bad day i like to picture that image you had up before of Art’s face painted inside the porta potty, always cheers me up. Thanks Frowns

  • Jim

    Why do owners even get voted into the Hall of Fame to begin with? An owners job basically consists of writing the checks and hiring non-player personnel to run the franchise (excluding Mike Brown who makes the personnel moves for the Bengals and runs the scouting department which has worked out great for that franchise). Did Modell sign Ozzie’s checks in such a manner as to warrant a spot in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

    If we are going to nominate non-player personnel to professonal hall of fames I’d nominate the beer vendor that served me at the Tribe game last weekend. I was one of the 8,000 that walked up and got a seat in row “W” near the very top of the stadium. Yet this vender lugged beer up to my friends and I on four separate occasions. He only had to rest on one of those trips. Truly an epic performance.

  • Anonymous

    Art Modell=Bad News for moving Cleveland team that he owns (in a free market).

    Lebron James=Smart businessman for moving to a new team and destroying the franchise we have without warning/repentance/etc. (also in a free market).

    Both of them had ties to the area for years and years and were working on legacies and possible/probable hall of fame careers. Art decided to team up with the NFL and city of Baltimore for a chance at more money and a ring. Lebron decided to team up with his only peer in the NBA and Rupaul for rings and good times. They both ruined their respective legacies in the process and both broke Clevelanders’ hearts. Frowns/Biki love Lebron and hate Modell. Funny stuff? Or selective reasoning?

    PS I hate them both with a passion. Don’t turn this on me.

    • Anonymous

      They’re on the same spectrum but moving the Browns is much worse than just moving yourself. LeBron is a lot more forgivable than Modell is all. It’s not that hard.

      And I’ve never so much as suggested that LeBron’s a smart businessman, so I especially don’t want to hear it about selective reasoning.

      • Anonymous

        The Browns were gone for 3 years and got a whole new team with a new stadium. The Cavs are going to suck for 3 years or more and maybe even be forced to fold up and move out of town. It isn’t that big of a stretch here.

        • Anonymous

          They both jammed it in us. They both had press conferences announcing the jamming. They both broke off negotations with local parties. At least Modell didnt have the players quit during the last season and refuse personnel moves that could have actually helped the team both short and long team.

        • Anonymous

          Another big difference you’re missing is that Modell himself could have left to pursue other things while leaving what was important to us in full tact. LeBron didn’t have that option at all, which is why there’s really no comparison at all.

          • Believelander

            Saying this feels weirder than an enema but I’m on board with smitty. I -do- feel lebron’s crime was not as severe as modell’s, but I still think it was quite severe and comparisons are more than fair, because he boned this town HARD.

          • Anonymous

            I am pretty sure that Lebron did have an option. He could have told us 2 years ago and mgmt could have dealt with it accordingly. He did do an excellent job of sneaking out though.

          • Anonymous

            He also could have tried his hardest in the playoffs last year. Crazy concept.

      • DonParma

        Despicable acts in Cleveland Sports History ranked from bad to worst:
        4.) The Decision
        3.) Boozer duping blind guy.
        2.) Modell moving Browns to Baltimore
        1.) LeBron quitting vs. Boston to make #3 easier to complete.
        You can hate Modell all you want, he was a bad businessman, but he was getting shafted by inept Cleveland politicians. Fact. His hand was forced, to an extent, as he was on the verge of personal bankruptcy. People typically respond poorly to these type of stressors, and he chose the worst alternative. Could he have handled it differently, absolutely, could he have sold the team? Perhaps – but for enough to pay his losses and obtain financial security for his family? He was not the sharpest business guy and he took the easy way out. He arguably deserves his place in history. But this guy had literally EVERYTHING to lose and I’m not sure that many people on this thread would choose differently.
        I’ll concede that Lebron had a lot on the line when he picked #3, and he had every right to fufill his free agency, pick a place he felt gave him a better (read: EASIER) chance to win a title, make more money, pay less taxes, etc.
        But the shameless act of quitting in a playoff series, faking an injury, ignoring his coach, refusing to try to extend game 6 by fouling, tearing his jersey off, slapping hands with opposing fans, all with a team potentially good enough to end a 46 year title drought will go down as the MOST despicable act in Cleveland Sports History.

        • Incognito Burrito
          • DonParma

            Lies, damned lies, and statistics… He clearly played at a high level for large parts of the series. His “disinterest” in Game 5 was blatantly obvious to anyone that watched the game. At the very least even a staunch Lebron supporter can watch the last minute of Game 6 and realize that he had long given up on that team. If you want to analyze the different levels of quitting feel free, but make no bones about it he did not give maximum effort in that series, and at that level of competition, and with that amount on the line…UNCONSCIONABLE.

          • Anonymous
          • DonParma

            So do you disagree with what I said? Do you think he gave max effort in Game 5? Were you proud to staunchly support this guy when he ignored his head coach’s desperate attempts to foul and extend the game in Game 6? This wasn’t a regular season game, this was a PLAYOFF SERIES!! When he walked off the floor hugging Celtics, tearing off his jersey, slapping five with opposing fans, did these some like a winner to you? Or a guy that gave a shit?

            You can allege butthurt just because you don’t like what happened but I’ll DERP DERP DERP you for burying your head in the sand and ignoring reality.

    • Anonymous

      i don’t hate modell

      • Anonymous

        I hate you.

      • Anonymous

        You make me sick.

        • Believelander

          I don’t hate him. He is beneath my hate. The idea of him bring enshrined for time immemorial is despicable though.

          • Anonymous

            Are you referring to Biki or Modell?

            If Biki, I see where you’re coming from. Modell, on the other hand, is right in my wheelhouse of hatred.

      • Anonymous

        Biki I frequently defend your right to have an opposing, if oftentimes misguided viewpoint, but….
        Art Modell SUCKS and you need to stop being the “apologist at large”.
        You jumped so far over the line this time Bob Beamon thinks you are amazing.

      • Anonymous

        Biki, you’re smart.

    • DK45

      +1

      I’m pretty sure “the most painful and widely delivered ‘fuck you’ moment in modern sports history” occurred on July 8, 2010 at a Boys and Girls Club in Greenwich, CT

      • Anonymous

        DK45, it was a grandiose bit of ego from LeBron and it was in very poor taste, but in my not at all humble opinion; Art “Burn in Hell” Modell committed a despicable act far beyond anything Mr James did.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t see how it’s even close.

          • 910Derp

            It would not be close even if James took the entire franchise to South Beach, given how important each team is to NEO.

    • Believelander

      More like +1111111111111111111. New best comment evar

    • Anonymous

      spop2, Art Modell grabbed a big wad of cash to move our beloved Browns.
      Did Lebron James make a huge wad of extra cash to go to Miami?

      • Anonymous

        I would have to assume he made up the salary he lost with more endorsements and things of that nature. He still left to hang out with his friends on the beach.

        • Anonymous

          spop2, That has been the general consensus of the national media, but I have seen fewer Lebron endorsements and Miami is not exactly a basketball crazy town. He also badly tarnished his “brand” and oftentimes the greatest promoter or agent in the world can not repair that kind of damage.
          I think he will lose money and destroy his proverbial legacy. Then what will he do when his career is over? If he had brought an NBA title to championship starved Cleveland he would have had endorsement deals for life.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with everything you said here. He may have earned more money though (short term).

  • Anonymous

    ozzie newsome used to be my 3rd favorite brownie (fyi #1 is jim brown and #2 is clay mattews). i even understood (or tried really hard to understand) his going to work for the baltimore organization. but this is truly awful.

    • Anonymous

      It really really is. Ozzie was the absolute best. Maybe he’ll apologize.

      I’m going to ask Mary Kay Cabot on Twitter if she’ll ask him to.

  • Anonymous

    FrOrange,

    good limiting analysis.

    Please send your resume……

  • Anonymous

    Am I the only one who is really bothered by the picture in this post?

    Not only are those two fine young ladies heartbroken, but they have to deal with that scroungey hillbilly Stillers fan lurking in the background. Those people have no shame. Disgusting.

    Surely PML will have my back here.

    • Anonymous

      I can’t even believe PML is letting this stand. The inside of his lungs must be completely coated with salt.

      • Anonymous

        I am shocked and a little disappointed. I hope he’s ok.

    • http://hardawayhatespittsburgh.blogspot.com PittsburghisforManLovers

      PML is back in the office today (3rd person!)- I didn’t even notice that cousin kisser behind those two lovely ladies with their laverne and shirley haircuts and screen printed sweatshirts. Now I am pissed – even our moments of posterity are ruined by the slice of hell. I spent all weekend up in LA protesting the LAPD letting the Asian Chipmunk walk.

      • Anonymous

        I knew I could count on you PML; glad to see you are still alive and well.

        Now what’s this about Asian Chipmunks?

        • http://hardawayhatespittsburgh.blogspot.com PittsburghisforManLovers

          Sorry – a certain acorn smuggling, squinting, wide receiver for Satan playing asian chipmunk

  • http://twitter.com/jimkanicki jim kanicki

    in addition to the above, let us not forget that modell got rid of Brownie the Elf.

    So, what do you do with a logo that the fans love?
    Well, if you’re Art Modell, you get rid of it. Apparently, Modell, who became the team’s owner in 1961, was completely embarrassed by the elf and hated it so much that in the mid-1960s he began to phase it out. …

    surely this closes the HOF debate.

    • Anonymous

      Brownie the Elf rules.

      It’s also important to remember that Modell also got rid of Paul Brown, the team’s frigging namesake and one of the greatest football coaches of all time, because Modell is an egotistical scumbucket of suck.

      I’m no LeBron fan, but Modell is the worst ex-Clevelander of all time. LeBron left the team, but if you still want, you can go downtown and catch a Cavs game. There’s plenty of fun Cavaliers to root for and enjoy watching.

      When Modell took the Browns, that was it. He stole football from the city. And although now it’s returned, the neoBrowns have essentially been a crippled franchise through the present. Modell is the root of all the problems afflicting the post-expansion Browns. Objectively and factually, Art Modell is just the worst. It’s science, don’t bother arguing. I hope he gets gout.

  • jhf44lk

    Lookie here everybody. Modell can never be excused for moving the Browns. Period. If he had it so bad, sell the team to a local buyer and move on with your life. He could not do this because of arrogance and self-importance. Simple…like Frownie says can we move on!!! We have a team moving in what I think is a great direction which I think is great but ultimately more positive then a tired old man living out his last days of misery!!!

    • 910Derp

      I’d like to believe that I can root for the Brown’s and despise the tired old man at the same time.

      • jhf44lk

        Yes 910 you can and I never want to deny one’s free will to choose! I still feel the sting from the move… so please forgive my intensity. Art Modell did some good things but his one act (moving the frigging Cleveland Browns!!) has defined his life and although he made a business decision I still think of him a fool. My last post was about the present and how I feel the Browns are heading in the right direction and is Modell worth the time ? I think if he (Modell) had a second chance he would do things differently perhaps sell locally. However, right now I could give a rolling donut more attention then that old guy who is probably grinding his teeth as we speak. Wow…That was quite the ramble…I guess I have not found forgiveness yet for Art. Please forgive me everyone, the sting is alive and well

        • 910Derp

          Yeah, and Timothy McVeigh earned a Bronze Star during Gulf War 1 before he did that… other thing.

          • 910Derp

            Not that I would ever compare a terrorist to a failed businessman. That would NOT go over too well.

  • Brian Sipe

    Frownie… sometimes you are so on you could headline Carnegie Hall

    great post

    • Anonymous

      You can do it Frownie, we mentioned before how you get to Carnegie Hall.
      There are three ways do you remember how it can be accomplished?

      • Anonymous

        Acto: Sipe, who is never wrong about anything, says I can get in with this blog post. Are there other ways? Advise.

        • Anonymous

          Sorry to be a dork, but I love that old joke although it may be completely apocryphal:
          Jascha Heifetz was stopped on the street in NYC and asked “How do you get to Carnegie Hall?”
          He answered, “practice, practice, practice”.

  • Czgrabik

    Hey ,ozzie how about telling the people of Baltimore you support Carl Rosenbloom for the HOF. See how they like that one.Maybe you’ll get a clue.

  • Anonymous

    Frownie, I have never been a horse racing fan, but that article made me want to start betting on the horses and I would even consider going to New Jersey.
    Well…. on second thought, I do not want to go to NJ.

  • Anonymous

    sweet game today (saturday).

    but the celtics shouldnt get cocky. true, rondo was a badass that played thru a dislocated elbow. but the celtics better remember that lebron has the ability to play thru injury too, specifically a bruised elbow.

    • Anonymous

      Go to sleep Lakers.

      • Anonymous

        How did you like Lamar Odom playing tough guy with Novitsky? If you are going to take a shot at somebody, it should at least look like you have at some time in your life been in an altercation more physical than a sissy slap fight. Novitsky had to take a dive to get anyone to notice.
        Lamar Odom is a Nancy Boy.
        Bynum took a cheap shot against the smallest guy on the floor, but at least he hit him.
        Next year the Mavs will have a goon on the bench for when they play the Lakers. I bet Cuban resurrects The Hanson Brothers.

        • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

          Hell, even 47 year old Charles Oakley would get the enforcer gig done against Odom.

          I’d follow that up by saying “and then Oakley would take his girl”, but I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want the ugly Kardashian either

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  • John

    There are several owners in the HOF who moved their teams….. not least of which is Al Davis. It should not be a criteria for induction

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