Jaguars Out-Browns Browns for Last-Second Loss in Cleveland

by Cleveland Frowns on November 21, 2011

“[Colt] reconfirmed for me that he’s a tough guy and he’s a battler … It feels to me like he’s not reeling as much.” Pat Shurmur

“Our offensive coordinator calls the plays. I can’t speak to his thinking.” Jack Del Rio

“It changes the whole attitude, gives you a new energy, makes you excited to go back to work.” — Joe Haden

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Doubts about the Browns’ ability to squeak by a team with an injury-ravaged defense and a horrendous quarterback were quieted yesterday, but not exactly silenced.

"I get to keep the jacket, rite?"

Mostly because what happened at the end of yesterday’s game wasn’t a goal line stand for the Browns as much as a hurricane of idiocy on Jacksonville’s part.

After Maurice Jones-Drew’s first-down run to the Browns’ two-yard line with 41 seconds to play, the Jags let 28 seconds tick off the clock before ramming Jones-Drew into the line again, then finally taking a timeout with 8 seconds left, leaving them with one predictable “quick shot” pass, then one last play. Taking the timeout right after Jones-Drew’s first-down run would have allowed the Jaguars to collect themselves with 36 seconds on the clock to call and run four plays against a reeling Browns defense instead of what amounted to two-and-a-half.

It helped that Jacksonville QB Blaine Gabbert missed a wide open Mike Thomas in the Browns’ end zone (by about thirty feet) on their previous drive, that Jason Hill dropped a touchdown pass that was right in his hands on the game’s second-to-last play (Del Rio said Haden “got away with an early strip”), and that the Jaguars offense kept the ball out of the hands of their best player (Jones-Drew) on the game’s final snap.

We suppose we’re glad it will be easier for Haden to go to work this week thanks to all of this, but we’d prefer if he was more motivated by his $50 million contract and the fact that the league’s worst offense and by far worst quarterback were able to put so much heat on the Browns defense in the first place.

Watching Gabbert (22-41) routinely miss open receivers by thirty feet and then yell at them as they returned to the huddle gave us D.A. flashback nightmare sweats. We mentioned yesterday that when Gabbert was in college he told reporters that he’s “driven by the mantra, ‘FEPWDM,’ which means ‘for every person whoever doubted me.’” It should be clear enough after yesterday that anybody who can’t come up with a better mantra than that is absolutely doomed.

As for the Browns offense, there was some good out there, including a rare yards-after-catch (YAC) sighting on Jordan Norwood’s 51-yard reception (Jags safety Dwight Lowery said he jumped at an out route that Norwood redirected), and a fairly dominant second half running game. But it still amounted to just two scores against a defense that was missing five of its best starters by the end of the day. Yesterday was Jacksonville’s first game adjusting to the loss of Pro Bowl corner Rashean Mathis, and the Jaguars also started yesterday without Pro Bowl defensive end Aaron Kampman, who missed his third straight start, and stalwart defensive tackle Terrance Knighton who missed the second start of his three-year career. By the fourth quarter, linebackers Clint Session and former Brown Matt Roth had left with concussions.

And Colt McCoy’s third quarter interception at the goal line was fairly horrendous.

But probably not as bad as Pat Shurmur’s decision to call a timeout after a Jacksonville first down with 2:36 left in the first half. At that point the Browns only had one timeout left, and Jacksonville was going to get to run at least four more plays barring a turnover. All the timeout did there was let them get down to the Browns’ 35-yard line with plenty of time to kick a field goal. A false-start penalty pushed the Jags back to the 40 and they were eventually forced to punt, but three points there and they’d have been lining up to kick a game-winning field goal on the last drive instead of the mad scramble for a touchdown.

Thankfully the Browns were out-Brownsed by the Jaguars in the end, and avoided becoming the league laughingstock for the holiday week. Now with just the NFL’s eighth-worst record, they should skyrocket from last week’s consensus second-to-last placement in the power rankings. Whatever it takes to get “a new energy” here.

We’ll look forward to seeing what they can make of it in Cincinnati next week against a Bengals unit that will either be reeling, or really glad to not be playing the Steelers or Ravens.

  • Vari

    Perfect title.  Couldn’t have said it better.  I almost thought the Jags were wearing Browns uni’s except for that little display by Mojo when he scored (prick).

  • Anonymous

    no mention of the undisciplined play?  9 penalties for 70 yards resulting in 4 first downs?  if you’re tryin to run Shurmur out you need to keep your foot on his neck son!  

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Frightfully Errant Passer Willfully Displaying Mediocrity.”

    FTFY, Blaine.

    • Anonymous

      I thought Blaine looked good yesterday. Hill bounced the winning touchdown off his chest.  There was some criticism of the routes his receivers were running.

      I thought he moved his team well. I think the coaching, play selection and clock management hurt them.

      Do the Jaguars need better WRs? They look fast…..

      • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

        I don’t know. I think his numbers pretty much summed up how he played. I was just making fun of him for talking like he’s made it in the NFL or something. He certainly has quite a lot of improvement to show before he proves anyone wrong.

      • Anonymous

        we must have been watching a different game.  i watched the ones Frowns saw where “Gabbert (22-41) routinely miss open receivers by thirty feet and then yell at them as they returned to the huddle”

        if i were one of his WRs, i likely would have punched him in the mouth…or faked an injury. 

        • Anonymous

          The announcers kept saying that his receivers were off their routes at times…and the receivers acknowledged their mistakes. That’s why he didn’t get punched.

           I still think he moved his team well a LOT of the time.

  • Anonymous

    How did Jacksonville lose?  Isn’t Jones-Drew their first string running back?

    • Anonymous

      it’s probably because we have a pretty decent defense..  nice to see Big Phil and the guys have 2 decent games in a row..  11.5 points allowed in last 2, granted to 2 of the worst overall offenses in NFL, but they both have very explosive RBs and we held them in relative check andstill kept them under their average which is something to build on.  too bad we’re only 1-1 to show for it..    ugh, the end to STL game is still haunting me..  

      • Anonymous

        I think the defense looks “better” talent-wise than they have in years, but the soft schedule combined with the fact that the decent teams we have played have all beat the crap out of us has me unconvinced. 

        • Anonymous

          i’m not convinced of anything other than the young guys we have are showing some promise of developing into a solid defense as we gain experience and add more talent.  we def need another LB and an improvement at DB, but i like what i’m seeing from the young fellas..  Jabaal and Phil held their own.. 

          • Ess Eh

            A pass rushing beast would be nice, since the browns haven’t had one, since… ever.  

            I’m a bit sick of watching opposing QB’s have a bloody fortnight to throw the ball.

          • Anonymous

            a la Von Miller, that boy good

        • Ess Eh

          It looks better b/c your eyes don’t move as fast as they are playing.

        • Anonymous

          I think what you have to say is this really is a team in transition. But at least as bad as we play a lot of it can (for now) be reasonably chalked up to extreme inexperience, including perhaps at the head coaching spot. Good judgment from bad judgment and all that…well, provided you’re not just congenitally stupid, which is a distinct possibility with Mr. “I always expect exactly what happened.”

          Haden, Sheard, Taylor, Rubin, Thomas, Mack, Cribbs– there are 7 very nice building blocks. Then you’ve got a stacked up draft coming, lots of money to spend, some coaching help, and more experience on the way.

          • Anonymous

            Dqwell is a guy who should be able to play at a high level for next 3-5 years and certainly should be considered one of the major building blocks..  Ward, Pinkston, Lavauo, and Little all seem like guys that look to be around for a while as well..

          • Anonymous

             There’s probably 8 more guys that can play on a winning team. I think the first list is pretty much the guys who can make a winning team better.

            D’Qwell, yeah, definitely, but what’s his contract status? I thought he was one and done so I’m not counting that as an asset we have as much as one we could acquire.

          • Anonymous

            yeah he is a FA but i highly doubt we will let him go, nor do i think he wants to leave.  he’s a leader on and off the field and probably has some sense of loyalty to the Browns for sticking with him the past 2 years of injuries.  as long as we give him a fair deal, which i’m sure we will based on our lack of depth at LB and due to his high level of play, he should be a Brown for at least the next 3 years..  

          • Vari

             Pinkston and Lavauo should be named the Swivel Door Brothers.  Terrible.  Dqwell shows flashes of a good linebacker, especially when he actually reads something correctly.  His tackling is suspect if you ask me. 

            I was most impressed with OG Banana actually showing some heart and running with an obviously injuried hammy.  Unlike some prima donna on the team.

          • Anonymous

            they have been grading out respectfully the past couple games, so i think “terrible” is a bit of an overstatement..  they still have a ways to go but hopefully they continue to click like they have been for a few more games..  I doubt Pinkston will be starter next season with Steinbach recovering on schedule, but he’s getting valuable experience and hopefully will be an asset for us as we go along..  

  • Anonymous

    Wait! Jacksonville was in the black helmets?!?

  • Anonymous

    Wait! Jacksonville was in the black helmets?!?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll agree with the premise that these kind of wins are not all that impressive. But I think the “we would have lost if x and y and z, and, plus, too all their good players were hurt etc etc.” goes a bit far. As much as they were a drop or two from winning in the end, we were a drop or two from cruising, and as errant as Gabbert was it turned out that he probably hurt his team less than McCoy with that brainfart, since no one can catch Gabbert’s nonsense. I give the D significant credit for staying disciplined and finally avoiding the big screw up. I was pretty sure MJD was going to go around the edge and torch these backers a few times, and it didn’t really happen.

    No argument on Shurmur’s continued malfeasance and innumeracy, but If your going to act like it’s a lucky event that the bad guys didn’t get a FG at half, you might at least mention that Dawson (!) missing a 35 yarder is not exactly an everyday or even every-decade occurrence, or that most people thought he hit it. Or that the last drive was aided by significant bullshit.

    It is what it is. Baby steps. All in all, I think we’re a better team than Jax with more room to grow.

    • Anonymous

      JAX has 15 guys on IR, most in NFL

    • Anonymous

      Whatever, man. The Browns had some big calls go their way, too. You’re parsing more than I am. I only brought up the FG at the end of the half because it could have been a disaster that would have been a direct result of an idiotic timeout call.

      Fact remains that the Jaguars were missing three then five of their best players on defense, and run the league’s worst offense by far.

      I agree that it is what it is, though. Both of these teams are absolutely terrible and it’s good that the Browns aren’t saddled with Gabbert.

      • http://www.redright88.com Titus Pullo

        Shurmur clearly lulled the Jaguars into a false sense of security with that timeout near the end of the half. The Jags were so relaxed that they committed a penalty that wiped out a hypothetical field goal.

        That, friends, is coaching!

        It’s not as if he called a timeout at the end of a game to allow the opposing team’s quarterback to collect himself and throw a game-winning touchdown pass. That would be horrible.

        • Anonymous

          When your defense isn’t ready at the goal line you call the timeout every time.

      • Anonymous

        >>Whatever, man. The Browns had some big calls go their way, too.>>

        Really that’s my point, just providing some balance. I’m accepting your premise that this is a still a “bum fight,” at this point, since despite the Jags having some good games they were depleted. I just think it’s wrong to act like it was only luck and one-sided injuries that won it. For bums, we’re at least very young bums, and we did a few decent things that are hard to do. As much as them holding a ball or two, you can pick a couple for us that would have salted the thing easily. But, bumfight, tossup, agreed.

        I think we’re all interested to see where things stand against some actual mediocre+ NFL competition.

        >>and run the league’s worst offense by far. >>

        You cannot run an offense “far” worse than ours.

      • http://www.redright88.com Titus Pullo

        Forgot to add that I agree on Gabbert.

  • Ess Eh

    btw, what was the ref’s thinking on the tipped pass/pass interference play?

    “Well, I know, Colt can’t throw a spiral, therefore the wounded duck that came out of his hand was not tipped.”

    also, where does a good QB put the ball on the throw to Greg Little in the endzone? I’m pretty sure it isn’t low and away forcing a diving attempt at a catch.

    • Anonymous

      The tip is a bailout they should have gotten, but it isn’t like the guy wasn’t going to run over him if it wasn’t tipped. But I hate the fade when you don’t have matchup advantages, just another example of Shurmur cramming in the plays he thinks NFL coaches are supposed to call rather than the ones that fit his team.

      I thought the Little throw was about 6 inches from perfect. But 6 inches is 6 inches. Another mildly unimpressive game from Chips.

      • Anonymous

        Bupa,
        ” 6 inches is 6 inches”  
        Unless you are in a bar at last call, or making excuses the morning after.

      • Ess Eh

        McCoy could have hit him in the numbers, which would be at least 4 feet higher and 4 feet less outside. 

  • Anonymous

    ” Cleveland Frowns”…You are posting too frequently on this site.   Plain Dealer Editorial and Sports Department.

  • Anonymous

    When Hill dropped that pass in the corner the only thing that I thought was…Hey look it’s Ronnie Harmon.

  • Anonymous

    see attached.  
    what can i say, i thought they looked better.

    • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

      Wait, what? Is that f’real?

      • Anonymous

        oh yes.
        line actually went up today.
        now it’s $20 = $100,000

        • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

          Oh ok, I thought that was for next season. Yeah that’s like giving away $20.

          • Anonymous

            i figure if we’re going to break through the curse it’ll occur on a miraculous scale.  
            and also that i am due compensation.

          • Anonymous

            Will 10-6 even get the Wild Card this year?

          • Anonymous

            with our pending series sweeps of pitt and bal, there’s two tie-breaks right there.  

            10-6 with an 8-4 in-conference record got green bay their wild card slot last year … so … nuf ced.

          • Anonymous

            I’d think 10-6 gets the division, since we’re hanging 2 loses apiece on Bal and Pit and 1 on Cinci, and you figure if they lose to us they are losing at least one more, right?

            This is almost guaranteed to happen, now that I think about it.

          • Anonymous

            This bet almost makes too much sense.  With the added confidence gained from Bumfight V, I can see the Browns running the table.  Put me down for $100.

  • Phil Savage

    Go root for Buffalo.

  • Phil Savage

    Seriously though, Eric Mangini would have totally had this team at 5-5 right now.

  • Anonymous

    Frownie,
    I love it!
    “hurricane of idiocy”
    Much like a Confederacy of Dunces.

  • Anonymous

    There was nothing lucky about this win. A terrible team beat a horrible team. Will they remain terrible or build, a question to be answered after next year (since 2 years seems to be all you get in CLE).

    All this win did was:
    Pros- builds a little confidence and cohesiveness in the minds of the players
            -lets all the other ‘bottom of the barrel teams’ know to watch out! oh wait, we already played them all and went .500
             – as Frowns said, we dont have to hear about it from the rest of the league (at least up front) for a week.

    Cons- lost yet another placeholder in a very stout draft
              – Shurmur actually thinks his backwards shit works
             

    pros outweigh the cons folks, we are on our way!!!

  • http://twitter.com/cnp3 Chris P.

    I had some negative stuff to say, because we played a crappy game against a crappy team and won, and I’m afraid we’ll try to take positives out of a game where there weren’t many and fail to make necessary changes….

    blah blah

    but for a few hours it felt sofuckinggood to win a game.  even if it was over ithaca college or whoever we played.

    • Anonymous

      Not to inadvertantly make you feel better, but ithaca college or whatever steamrolled the Ravens in one game, lost by less to the Steelers, and kept up with the Bengals. Not that they played that way in this game, but to at least some extent the the NFL is the NFL, and outside of Indy there are no real freebies.

  • http://www.waitingfornextyear.com Craig Lyndall

    I didn’t want to break my comment silence, but I will.  I take exception with you taking exception with Joe Haden appreciating wins and what it does to the psyche of the team heading into a week of practice.  Seems pretty unreasonable.

    • Anonymous

      Whatever, man. Haden said the win “changes the whole attitude, gives you a new energy, makes you excited to go back to work.”

      I get that winning is better than losing but dude has a $50 million contract to play football. He should be excited to go to work every day. His (and the team’s) emotional state shouldn’t be so subject to the vicissitudes of things like Jack Del Rio’s idiocy for us to be hearing quotes like this in the post-game stories. It just sounds lame.

    • Anonymous

      Whatever, man. Haden said the win “changes the whole attitude, gives you a new energy, makes you excited to go back to work.”

      I get that winning is better than losing but dude has a $50 million contract to play football. He should be excited to go to work every day. His (and the team’s) emotional state shouldn’t be so subject to the vicissitudes of things like Jack Del Rio’s idiocy for us to be hearing quotes like this in the post-game stories. It just sounds lame.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not going to comment on whether or not anyone should be happy or upset about the victory.  Those inclined to feel that a “win is a win” will feel good about it and those who grade for style points probably will not.  Personally, I felt as though this was the kind of game you feel good about for a few hours afterward but then it hits you that you still have a lot of deficiencies.

    Some observations:In a league driven by QB play, I felt that Colt McCoy was the better QB.  Of course, that’s not saying a lot since Blaine Gabbert was just plain horrible.  I mean, how do you miss guys THAT wide open?  I thought Colt made some great throws (the awful pick notwithstanding) and he had a few good plays with his feet.

    Chris Ogbonnaya may be everyone’s idea of a punchline but I have watched this kid play for years and I thought yesterday he really showed me something.  He played hard.  In the fourth quarter he displayed some very nice vision and hit the hole pretty well.  He was brutal in pass protection on the one sack that I recall;  He played through pain and I felt like he left it all out there.  Here’s a guy who’s basically auditioning for his next job.  I thought he did well.
    Dammit Chris Gocong….stop overrunning your gaps!

    Joe Haden got away with interference on the second to last play and he had some pretty ugly moments.  I think he’s at that delicate stage where he’s tasted some success and now the question is whether or not he can keep it together and ride past the plateau.  Will his own success hinder him?  Is he too confident?

    Pinkston STRIKES AGAIN!  He had a tremendous block on Poszlusny on the Ogbonnaya TD.   What a play.

    I can’t stand the plays where the four receivers all run five yards or all run with a defender.  No one cuts or crosses.   Not good with this group of receivers.  If they had a speedster perhaps…

    Why are our LB’s so close together presnap in our base defense?  Seems like they collide as they go to their gap assignment.  Just an impression.  I could be wrong as the TV doesn’t allow a good view.
    This sort of play won’t beat Pittsburgh or Baltimore but it was enough to beat the Del Rios.  No way a team with Pocket Hercules should have lost to the Browns yesterday but hey, sometimes it just falls your way too.

  • Anonymous

    Good post. Can’t beat a win during a holiday week. I really think they’ve got a shot to beat the Bengals this coming Sunday. And I’m a realist. I never think we have a shot.

  • Anonymous

    So, for the first time in a long time, I did not watch or DVR the Browns game this week.  I did gain a little perspective as I watched the GB game in GB with the fam.

    After all these years of negativity with Browns fans, I thought I would be in some kind of gushy love-fest the whole time.  I gotta say, they are every bit as critical of the Pack as we are of the Browns.  GB’s weakest link,  their defense, was brutally picked apart.  It must be the nature of the fan in general, regardless of success or record.  Even though they won (again), after the game my dad and brother were still dissecting what went wrong play by play.   Granted, it was not one of their better games, but I was like….are you kidding me?

    So, I’m not saying my family is normal – but I do think it’s human nature to do what we all do.

    Sidebar – Also paid my respects to Lambeau pre-game with my brother for fun.  It’s interesting because the stadium is in a residential neighborhood that is a suburb (?) of Green Bay called Ashwaubenon.  For blocks upon blocks as you get in the vicinity, there are cars parked on front lawns, tents, people.  Streets are closed.  (Holmgren Way was not, BTW.)   Bands are playing in 25 degree weather.  Feels like college.  Yes, Lambeau has a parking lot but the tailgate goes so much further.  Sorry Pete, I don’t own a camera and my phone is just a phone, so maybe it didn’t happen?

    Highly recommend going someday for a truly unique experience. 

    • Anonymous



      her camera phone is just a phone?

      • Anonymous

         It’s actually a soup can with a very long string, tech-boy.

    • Anonymous

      CLTIL,
      It has long been a dream of mine to watch the Browns play the Pack at Lambeau, however I will only go if it is a sunny day in July.
      I used to go to Wisc every summer in July to race Super Week, (although the week lasted more than a month) and I wore arm warmers, leg warmers and a helmet liner even in July, (granted most of our races started at 7am, or at twilight), but still.
      How do you manage to stay outside for more than a minute or two in that part of Canada?

      • Anonymous

        I saw them play (pre-season, story of my life) at Lambeau in  August 1981 at the Bishop’s Charities Game when I was in college.  Still have the program.  It was warm as I remember.  Don’t remember much else.  Did I mention I was in college?  Drinking age was 18 so I was within the law, of course!

        • Anonymous

          That “of course” was a really good one. 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Well, I’m guessing you were still in diapers at that time, so I’m taking care not to tarnish your image of me that I have carefully manufactured here on this site.  

  • Anonymous

    So, for the first time in a long time, I did not watch or DVR the Browns game this week.  I did gain a little perspective as I watched the GB game in GB with the fam.

    After all these years of negativity with Browns fans, I thought I would be in some kind of gushy love-fest the whole time.  I gotta say, they are every bit as critical of the Pack as we are of the Browns.  GB’s weakest link,  their defense, was brutally picked apart.  It must be the nature of the fan in general, regardless of success or record.  Even though they won (again), after the game my dad and brother were still dissecting what went wrong play by play.   Granted, it was not one of their better games, but I was like….are you kidding me?

    So, I’m not saying my family is normal – but I do think it’s human nature to do what we all do.

    Sidebar – Also paid my respects to Lambeau pre-game with my brother for fun.  It’s interesting because the stadium is in a residential neighborhood that is a suburb (?) of Green Bay called Ashwaubenon.  For blocks upon blocks as you get in the vicinity, there are cars parked on front lawns, tents, people.  Streets are closed.  (Holmgren Way was not, BTW.)   Bands are playing in 25 degree weather.  Feels like college.  Yes, Lambeau has a parking lot but the tailgate goes so much further.  Sorry Pete, I don’t own a camera and my phone is just a phone, so maybe it didn’t happen?

    Highly recommend going someday for a truly unique experience. 

  • Anonymous

    I think I actually ROFL’d and LMAO’d at the line that Yo Gabba Gabbert brought on D.A. flashback nightmare sweats. A+, sir.

    • Anonymous

      I almost wrote “Yo Gabba Gabbert” six times yesterday but never pulled the trigger!

  • Anonymous

    It’s actually a soup can with a very long string, tech-boy.

  • Anonymous

    can i work rod’s side of the street for just a minute?

    i checked out the browns’ highlights on nfl-com.  (the commercials are brutal so i screencap’d the highlights in to one [big] mov file.)  i wanted to see that 40 yd obyanni run closer.  frankly i was just happy to see them running right.  use that joe thomas.  check him sealing that left edge — a wall!  look at mack leading a sweep!  awesome!  wait.. who the hell is 73 and how did he get 10 yards downfield?  lauvao??  -rewind-  holy crap, alex smith sealed the edge freeing thomas to cruise downfield and crush random corners and safeties.  that was a well-designed and well-executed play at a critical part of the game, you guys!  not to snark on rod’s newest bevo but imagine how good that play would be with a running back who can keep up with the center.  !!

    there’s other clips in that mov too.  
    1. obyjanni run
    2. (0:42) colt sack (oboyanni gets abused in blitz pickup, but i’m not sure didnt lauvao blow an assignment.  like, while lauvao is helping out mack two of the sackers come through his gap.)
    3. (1:00) cribbs td catch (i cant tell if greg little’s presence almost too close to cribbs was a. a mistake by little, b. a mistake by little and then a smart play to shut it down in time, c. a designed play with litte used as a decoy to get the attention of two defenders.)  nice throw and catch by colt and josh.
    4. (1:44) haden burned on pass (it happens. i suppose it happens when you press cover like haden does here.  i rather give up one of these a game than the 5-6 12 yards the eric wright gave up-sorry frowns.)
    5. (2:20) the dawson miss (meh.  dont kick it over the uprights next time phil and we wont have this problem.  dawson has built up so much goodwill with me that i cant imagine a scenario where i’d get down on him.)

    • Anonymous

      Jim-

      That long Ogbonnaya run is a thing of beauty.   There aren’t a lot of centers who could do what Mack did on that play.  He pulled all the way out and sealed the outside.  Alex Smith sealed the inside and gave him a lane.   There isn’t an explosive play in the running game that doesn’t include a legitimate downfield block from a WR and Cribbs seems to do that here.

      I, too, noticed Little on the Cribbs TD.  I think at this point, the play broke down and in that case Cribbs ran to the pylon which someone needed to do. 

      I can’t give Ogbonnaya a pass on the blitz pick up.  He’s supposed to block “Mike to Sam” or “inside-out”.  He wasn’t in good position to block and he got lit up.   I think that’s unusual for Chris since, at Texas, he was used a lot in a “3rd down back” capacity.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly correct rod’o,
        At UT he did an admirable job picking up and delaying if not stopping the blitz.
        Do you think that play may have been a “speed of the NFL” problem.
        In my limited bit of success-less athletics I was frequently amazed at the increased speed and cognitive content required as one moved up to each higher level of play.

      • Anonymous

        I really think the current media/fan stupiphany about Agbayani is pitiful. I thought he made one good run, which was the quick-cut 3rd down conversion gaining 3 instead of losing a yard. Other than that, I don’t think there is a back in the league that wouldn’t have gotten his 115 with the way the line blocked, and more than half of them would have taken his long run to the house untouched.  And he did blow the pickup. Just not seeing it.

        Not to be down on him, I think he can probably stick in the league as a backup. But the idea that the back is always the one that makes the running game go is one of the stupider fan/media prejudices there is, and it’s really overdone on that game. The line kicked butt for once, the most encouraging thing I’ve seen out of the offense all year.

  • Anonymous

    one more thing:  

    can we get a 3rd pick out of chicago for seneca wallace? 

    just asking.

    • Anonymous

       I’m wondering why Garrard is still on the shelf. Have to think they’ll take him for free over wallace for compensation.

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