“I’ve got to get a ring for me, too.” — Exclusive Interview with the Miami Heat’s Shane Battier

by Cleveland Frowns on June 21, 2012

Or, I ran into Shane Battier at the worst bar in downtown Cleveland back in February and we had a nice chat.

It was February 16, a Thursday. The Heat were in town to play (crush) the Cavs the next day, and were staying in a downtown hotel. So Battier walks in and sits at the bar to get a bite to eat.

When I saw him I was of course like, “Hey! Shane Battier!,” and closed in for a photo opp/pep talk attempt. Battier was graciously receptive.

I started in with a few Wojo floor slaps, which gave way to my intro on how, as a person who himself specializes in suffocating defense and dagger 3-balls when on the basketball court, I had a lot of respect for Battier’s game.

With that foundation established, I went on to explain to Battier that there are a lot of folks in the Cleveland area who recognize an astonishingly reductive and regressive demonization campaign for what it is, who have forgiven LeBron for his mistakes in leaving, and still support him and want to see him succeed (aka me, Biki, most black people in Akron, about 60% of the black people in Cleveland, and some others (I didn’t get into these specifics with Battier, though)). During this part of the conversation, I said to Battier, “you’ve got to help LeBron get that ring, man.”

“Hey, I’ve got to get a ring for me, too,” he replied, at which point I remembered that he didn’t have one yet himself.

And I was like, “Yeah. You’ll get it, man. You’ll get it.”

At this point he referred to the fact that at the age of 33, he might only have a few good years of playing left. I then asked him if he’s ever tried yoga, pointed out how much it helped LeBron, and did some general proselytizing on the subject and how it would help Battier extend his career.

He replied by noting that he realized it would be a good thing to take up, and said that he and his wife might do just that when he retires, but that he couldn’t picture finding the time until then. Which was interesting, and also understandable enough given the regimen he must keep up with to play basketball at the world’s highest level.

As for the rest, I asked him if he liked Cleveland (“Yeah, great place. I’m from the Detroit area, you know.”), and that was pretty much it. “Alright, hey, great to meet you, hey, get that ring, Shane.”

“Alright, bud. Thanks.”

Alright! So given this pep talk and also of course all the priceless advice I gave LeBron back when he was in high school, the Heat will probably send me a ring, too, if/when they win, which we’ll keep on display in a glass case at Map Room so everyone can enjoy it.

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In other news, here’s an excellent read by Cleveland native, writer, etc. Scott Henkle at The Classical on “Harvey Pekar’s Cleveland, and ours.” Really excellent, and had he not completely missed the impact of the Curse of Wahoo on the extremely complex subject it would have been pretty much perfect.

  • Dood

    OMG, look at that picture. what a couple of chumps!

  • http://twitter.com/musicman06 Chris Music

    Bizarre that he would stroll from the Ritz Carlton, where all the NBA visiting teams stay, to unnamed bar, when Johnny’s Little Bar is on the way there!

    • p_forever

      the casino bought the ritz – did you know that? they agreed to some deal whereby it remains the ritz for a few years (retains the name), but after that all bets are off (hahaha pun intended).

  • GrandRapidsRustlers

    Did he flop when the flash on the camera went off?

    How could you not have slapped the floor?

  • CleveLandThatILove

    Ballers convention, love it.

  • bupalos

    You should have done the barstool headstand, I think that would have convinced him on the yoga.

    Battier has pretty much always seemed like an entirely decent human being, I feel pretty good about him basically single-handedly winning that ring, and am not surprised that he pretty clearly dislikes Lebron.

    That picture says nothing if not “this seems like a decent guy but Jesus why does everyone’s basketball brain get sucked up by Lebron?”

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Great read on the picture.

      Also, I didn’t say I didn’t do a headstand.

      • bupalos

        >>>Also, I didn’t say I didn’t do a headstand.>>

        I inferred it from the fact that there is does not appear to be any dusting of shattered lightbulb glass on Shane’s head. Although the ceiling in Unnamed Crappybar seem to be pretty high, so, withdrawn.

  • John

    Hmm I wonder what bar that could be. No evidence from the logo on the window

  • JWMarriott

    This was a fun article.

    One point though: don’t you think your harping on the supposed racist underpinnings of the Lebron hate isn’t a little “reductive” itself? Given that African Americans are a minority – and a persecuted one at a point in our history – of course they’re going to defend/forgive Lebron quicker than others will. Doesn’t necessarily mean that people who still don’t like the guy are racists (remember, it was Gilbert who wrote the letter, and ESPN who projected the specific contents of that letter to Clevelanders – I don’t ever remember being asked to approve a draft). This isn’t racism, it’s just identity politics as usual.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Other than the ridiculous ideas that I “harp on racist underpinnings” and that my writing on LeBron is reductive in the wrong direction, I agree with everything you say here.

      • Believelander

        Well if enough people tell you your writing on LeBron is largely reductive in the wrong direction, it must mean that they’re all wrong/delusional/murder hard-on expression you use recently.
        Racist underpinnings, of course, should be annihilated; racism has become so simultaneously banal and widespread in this country it’s revolting. The Wahoo thing is surprisingly some of the most overt racism in American popular culture yet the murderswell (<— THAT'S the expression) in defense of it is shocking.

        • ClevelandFrowns

          I’m OK with the fact that we baller-types are usually the first to see when everybody else is wrong about something, so you’ll need more than just the “if enough people tell you” thing. Agree 100% tho re: Wahoo defense swell.

    • bupalos

      >>>This isn’t racism, it’s just identity politics as usual.>>>

      For the most part it isn’t either one of those things. It is stronger and weaker attachments to one’s tribe, but I think mostly in just the opposite way you are thinking.

      My father in law was true lower class growing up. Direct immigrant single mother, childhood in the shadow of the great depression. Basically grew up shoeless running around the wrong parts of Akron playing baseball and doing things like stealing chickens and cooking them on open fires in vacant lots. He was very much into sports, but what he admired and rooted for in sports was what he was after himself: success. I took me a while to realize his interest in the Indians had almost nothing to do with their proximity, but because in his memory they were a pinnacle team with the greatest players. He liked the Yankees just as much, because over the course of his life it turned out they were better.

      The lower class mostly ends up rooting for success over a local tribal attachment to a place that is hard on them and doesn’t especially deserve gratitude. This is all the more true of minority lower classes that suffer an extra layer of exclusion by law or prejudice. Home team just doesn’t mean as much. But “one of their own,” a very local kid that achieves incredible success, as much or more AGAINST the reality of the city as because of it, that clearly deserves more allegiance than the city or region.

      Much the same thing happens in portions of the opposite end of the spectrum with the cosmopolitan class that sees the world and decides the local attachment isn’t really especially valid. Lebron is generally defended by both of these classes, the exception being that a lot of lower class less-dark folk are racist against people darker than they are, and will hold against Lebron what they will not hold against Johnny Damon or Rodger Clemens or even Alex Rodriguez. (My father in law would fall in this camp.) But on the whole racial identity has less to do with it on both sides than the Homer gene.

      Frowns is a special case. I’m still working theory on that one.

      • ClevelandFrowns

        Hard to be a homer when you have certain strong ideas about what home has and doesn’t have coming to it, no? Where does that fit into your analysis? I’m not seeing how you account for it.

        • bupalos

          Yeah that’s the thing. Homers like me have about as much difficulty thinking in terms of what our town “has and doesn’t have coming to it” as we would cooly and dispassionately deciding how much we “owe” to our parents or something. It just isn’t a matter of logic or justice.

          So while it’s easy to understand the arguments that Cleveland deserves harsh correction at the hands of a just and moral universe, I’m admit not really fully understanding those who make them. Even though they make perfect sense. So I’m working on that.

  • BIKI024

    Who’s your Daddy, Battier! Detroit Country Day’s finest! (Webber doesn’t count)

  • p_forever

    nice pic.

  • dubbythe1

    Being a Duke fan for a little over 20 years, I appreciate this little story, after all what are champions without the role players.

    Agree with Bup, should of done the barstool headstands, matter of fact when you randomly meet said athletes it should be a challenge to see if you can get them to imitate your glorious barstool headstand, and then take a snapshot!

    Could Battier have possibly gotten a tip to goto said worst bar in Cle via a concierge? LB? Dumb luck?

    Yoga is obviously the way toward enlightenment, or at leas ta very limber body into your senior years.

  • p_forever

    also, although it seems impossible, the most recent iteration of the worst bar in downtown cleveland is actually an improvement upon its predecessor. that place was truly the worst.

    • http://brian23.com Brian

      what was there before

      • p_forever

        metro. so awful. it was the allegedly “more hip” version of metropolitan, which was there before metro, and we equally awful.

        • http://brian23.com Brian

          What do you think will be there next what about an olive garden

          • ClevelandFrowns

            I’m thinking either Dave & Buster’s or a new PNC branch.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Who owned the Metropolitan? Also, have you ever looked at the art inside of the Worst bar that Battier were at?

      • p_forever

        Hyde park owned metropolitan. I don’t know the interior of the newest iteration.

        • ClevelandFrowns

          Who owns Hyde Park? Also, you’ll have a chance to see the artwork here shortly.

          • p_forever

            I don’t know lol -maybe just Google it?

          • Ohiakotan

            Joe Saccone, principal partner in the Hyde Park Restaurant Group

  • Art_Brosef

    Rest assured that no non- Cleveland championship ring will ever be on display at the Map Room.

    • wiseoldredbeard

      My thoughts exactly.

    • Petefranklin

      Couldn’t one be melted into slivers of plutonium or whatever bling they use, then inserted into some kind of liquor just like Bartmans spaghetti sauce. You could call it Plutssburgschlager or some catchy name like that, then DRINK!! If only we had a Heatles ring to indulge in.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      We’ll see how much rank you pull at Map once I come in with my championship bling.

  • Biff

    Kudos, Frownie. I think this site is developing into one of the best Miami Heat blogs on the internet. Maybe, for your next post, you can change it up and write about that time you pissed next to Peter Boulware at the Sportsman during the Ravens’ 2000 Super Bowl season!

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Biff,
      It is Frownie’s blog, so he may write whatever he wishes, however I certainly appreciate your humor.

      Also, does anyone have any more information on the extent of Lebron’s cramping.
      A good, solid, cramped muscle will have extensive interstitial edema.
      It will be very difficult to recover from a severe cramp in 45 hours.

      If they pump him full of electrolytes they will make it worse as far as his ability to preform tonight.
      He needs things that will restore muscle glycogen and allow that good ol’ Kreb’s cycle to produce ample amounts of Adenosine Tryphosphate.

      It amazes me what the average sports doc or “trainer” does not know about how to help with cramping.

      The only thing that can release the actin and myosin myofibrils is ATP.

      An I V of Lactate immediately and plenty of water and high glycemic index foods the next day, as well as rest are the only things that can help.

      He is probably wasting his time with massages and electrolytes.

      • Beeej

        Forget about the cramping. What about his elbow?

        • actovegin1armstrong

          Beeej,
          No problem, he can run on one leg like he shot his free throws with one hand.
          Was it Lebron melodrama?
          Or, was he really having a serious cramp?
          I was doing a lot of fast forwarding, it was hard to tell.

          • http://brian23.com Brian

            Looked legit to me. LeBron really seems to have turned the corner mentally, and I wish I was being sarcastic about that.

          • Petefranklin

            Small cramp,BIG melodrama, you know the routine. Already has his excuse now.

        • Petefranklin

          The elbows fine,he worked out with the Dolphins yesterday throwing 50 yard bombs for fun.

      • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

        “Also, does anyone have any more information on the extent of Lebron’s cramping. “

        He’s got the same issue that he had with his elbow. Idontwannagetblamedifweloseitis is the scientific term, I believe.

        As with many injuries of this nature, it heals faster if you remove pressure from it.

        ____________

        I know which bar this is, but only because of the emblem on the window. I hate chain places, so I’ll go along with it being terrible. There might be one spot hiding somewhere downtown that I haven’t been to yet, so I’ll reserve calling it “the worst”.

    • Jason

      Or the time he shared a tandem massage with Jerome Harrison

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Hey Biff, I edited the Cleveland Frowns intro, “Cleveland Frowns is written by” section at the top of the sidebar. It should help with your chapping problem.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Frownie,
        Did you forget to add:
        “This is not quite exactly unlike a Miami Heat blog.”

        I meant that in the kindest way possible Frownie, no malice intended. I shall never tell you how to raise your baby.

      • Believelander

        Well, nothing can stay great forever.

        • bupalos

          It will still be great. Just need a little work on the logo.

          • Believelander

            You sir are a wizard. The Buplings should know they carry the blood of titans.

    • http://twitter.com/musicman06 Chris Music

      Isn’t there supposedly going to be a spot opening with ESPN Heat Index with Brian Windhorst leaving ESPN and returning to the most resilient city in the country…

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Did you guys ever think you’d ever spend so much time at a Heat blog in your life? I do work.

  • nj0

    Can I ask what makes this unnamed bar so terrible? Or is even discussing the place verboten? I ask purely as a bar-loving ex-Clevelander.

    • CleveLandThatILove

      Must be where Dan Gilbert stole Frownie’s lunch money that day.

    • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

      based on the background, pretty sure we can rule out the tilted kilt.

      breastaurants!!

    • ClevelandFrowns

      I’ll get to it in a post, hopefully next week.

    • Petefranklin

      It’s the place that the Queen didnt, errr, forgot, errr thought his boys had the tip at so shes not welcome there anymore.

  • Ronnie

    I have found this particular unnamed bar to be the least revolting of the bars on that unnamed street. That doesn’t mean it’s a good bar by any stretch, but why is it the worst?

    • p_forever

      it is filled – or at least used to be when it was metro and metropolitan – with the worst sort of strivers. at least during lunch, and during happy hour, which are the only times i’ve ever been there.

      also the happy hour thing only happened once. it was really too revoltingly “here’s my card” for a repeat visit.

      • ClevelandFrowns

        This is part of it, for sure.

  • BIKI024

    i made the mistake of listening to some Cleve radio the past couple days, and the anti-lebron hate is ridiculous. to the extent that they are already presuming LBJ is going to have a parade in Akron with his trophy (highly doubtful) and then ripping Akronites for supporting the kid. unbelievable.

    • Believelander

      W/e New Yorker

      Learn2WalkAMile

      • BIKI024

        et tu Smitty? he give you a free oil change or something??

        • actovegin1armstrong

          Biki,
          The level of respectful cajoling on this site is what makes it fun.
          We are all going to stay respectful right?

          • BIKI024

            so calling someone a “supertool” is respectful?? and as if where i live has anything to do with anything or my loyalty to cleveland sports teams (or players from my hometown). DERP

          • actovegin1armstrong

            Biki,
            I did not realize that anyone called you a “supertool”.
            However, I would love to be called a Supertool.
            Perhaps it was none of my business to intervene in to what I thought may become a bit of a cumbersome argument for tailgate time.
            My apologies to you if I was incorrect or if I overstepped my boundaries.

    • Petefranklin

      It’s not just Cleveland radio my friend.

  • Clevelandsaplum

    BAR LOUIE BAR LOUIE BAR LOUIE BAR LOUIE!!!

    (i just want to see if you’ll delete my comment)

    xo

  • http://clevelandsaplum.com alexa @ cleveland’s a plum

    BAR LOUIE BAR LOUIE BAR LOUIE BAR LOUIE!!!

    (i just want to see if you’ll delete my comment)

    xo

    • ClevelandFrowns

      You win.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Frownie,
        Was there any particular reason that alexa received preferential treatment?
        Good boy Frownie.

  • p_forever

    cleveland on the cutting edge – researchers at the clinic are working on a real deal (and actually workable) solution to the concussion problem in the NFL.

    http://deadspin.com/5920006/can-science-see-inside-an-nfl-players-skull-before-its-too-late

    • Petefranklin

      No love for Vegas in the article. Cleveland Clinic’s Lou Ruvo Brain institute is out west here,in Las Vegas. Very nice place from the outside.I actually wish they had built it in Cleveland though, we’ve had it rough but Cleveland has had 40 years of rough between the bright spots.

  • Jim

    Super pumped for the Heat victory parade down Euclid this weekend. Maybe Sir Charles said it best:

    “I wish he had stayed in Cleveland, because those fans in Cleveland, man, they’re fantastic. They don’t even have real fans here in Miami, they’re front-runners.”

    Can’t wait to see how fann’d up everybody is tonight.

    • Believelander

      I understand it’s hyperbole, and some people will go off their rocker criticizing Barkley for this, but in a media world where people rashly speak in hyperbole and generalizations, he’s right. After all, according to one well-placed source at ESPN, all Clevelanders are vicious hatemongers who push down 8 year olds after football games.

      The quality of the Miami fans at large has been pretty widely documented, and Florida fans in general outside of college football. Whereas Cleveland fans aren’t what they used to be (a lot have gone from passionate to just jaded), I still genuinely believe things are better around these parts, and the Cavs fans are the best of the 3 sports right now. Yes, I know the Browns “sell out” every week, but every Cavs game I’ve been to since LeBron left was loud and fun because of the people in the seats whether there were 21,000 or 5,000 there.

  • Petefranklin

    Since the Heatles have won a ring, don’t you think Winston Wolf will be there sitting courtside? Of course we wont see him on TV because any gangster worth his rolex sits on the side opposite the benches so he wont be recognized, but he’ll be there!!! Rolexes are cooler than rings anyways.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Pete Frank,
      Rolexes??
      I know not of what you speak.
      A dietary supplement to ensure regularity?

      • Petefranklin

        Mr. Wolf left the building early in the second quarter last night!

  • Deve Stay

    i’m punching him in the face with my thoughts.

  • rgrunds

    Battier’s great. He quietly makes everyone on his team much better. Heat can’t lose.

  • CleveLandThatILove

    It’s like Y 2 K all over again. Huge build-up, and then….just another day.

    • Believelander

      I watched my network action soaps and went to bed.

  • bupalos

    I think Cleveland should take out a full page ad in the Miami Herald thanking Shane Battier for many great years of NBA service and his well deserved championship.

    Be nice if this whole sad, gross, spectacle can go to bed now.

    And who knows, maybe Frown’s scorched earth approach to civic therapy will prove out.

  • Atdietz80

    Art Modell is hated by all. Really with the race stuff? Lebron pulled off one of the greatest douche moves of all time and people got pissed about it. I don’t see folks letting up on Modell after his team won a superbowl. He pulled the Biggest douche move and whites, blacks, and everyone in between still hate him.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    /moved to current thread./

  • http://www.facebook.com/patrick.caraway Patrick Caraway

    Haha you are a horrible writer..seriously your article is not only poorly written but its pointless…your man crush on lebron is disturbing..go back to your real job bagging groceries

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