Browns Finally Get a Guy from Baylor; Draft WR Josh Gordon with Supplemental 2nd Round Pick

by Cleveland Frowns on July 12, 2012

After missing badly on quarterback Robert Griffin III and less embarrassingly on wide receiver Kendall Wright in last April’s draft, today the Browns used a supplemental second round pick on Griffin and Wright’s former Baylor University teammate, Josh Gordon, a 6’3, 224 pound receiver. Gordon transferred to Utah before the 2011 season after Baylor suspended him indefinitely for having tested positive for marijuana use. He would have had to sit out last season pursuant to NCAA rules governing transfers regardless, but SI reports that Gordon “changed his mind” about Utah, “and entered the Supplemental Draft — but too late for the 2011 version.” And now he’s a Cleveland Brown.

Mary Kay Cabot has more details at the Plain Dealer, including that Gordon was arrested in October 2010 “with teammate Willie Jefferson after they fell asleep in the drive-[thru] line of a fast food restaurant [Taco Bell],” which is amazing (they both fell asleep in the drive-thru line, guys). Marijuana was found in the car when it was searched but the failed 2011 marijuana test was a separate incident.

Between this, RG3′s socks, and some other things, Baylor seems like a place where a kid can really spread his wings, so it’s hard to hate on the front office for staying focused on these guys.

Anyway, during this 2010 season in which he was falling asleep in Taco Bell drive-thrus, Gordon still managed to catch 42 passes for 714 yards and seven touchdowns, which was as many as Wright had in the same RG3-run shotgun spread; though Wright went for almost twice as many catches (78, for 952 yards).

For the privilege of selecting Gordon today, the Browns forfeited next year’s second round pick which could well be a high one (of course). They had the second overall pick in this Supplemental Draft, right behind the Bills, thanks to the results of a lottery. By electing to use a second-round pick on the receiver they virtually guaranteed they would land him. Had they elected to use only a third rounder, any other team could have used a second-round pick to take Gordon. Cabot writes that the Browns, “had to use the second-rounder if they wanted to land him,” but as far as anyone can tell this is just ingratiating speculation, supported only by Cabot’s note that “plenty of other teams were high on Gordon, including Miami at No. 4 and Washington at No. 7.” OK. How high?

SI notes that “The second-round pick is the highest coughed up in the supplemental draft since Houston took running back Tony Hollings in the same round in 2003.”

According to SI’s Tony Pauline (per the SI report linked above), Gordon’s Wonderlic score “was comparable to what NFL teams want from quarterback prospects.” And there’s no question the receiver has been through things (Taco Bell drive-thru; See also Cabot piece quoting Gordon at length on his regrets at missing out on Baylor’s magical 2011 season, etc.). So, we’ll see.

Worst case scenario is that this move has anything to do with a “No. 32 power ranking spurring the Browns to action,” or “a Browns public relations staff that makes calls on the wording in local blog posts.”

  • bupalos

    I can’t really question the #2. Kid looks pretty damn good to me.

  • Bryan

    I got to thinking: If we had completed the RGIII trade as it was described we would have RGIII and a 2nd rounder (but no 1st rounder) next year. Instead we have Trent Richardson, Weeden, Schwartz, and Gordon plus a 1st rounder next year.

    I think missing out on RGIII was a good thing. Of course, I am not saying that the team necessarily planned it this way. It was just a twist of fate. But maybe it was a good one, one that raises question about the Curse of Chief Wahoo.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Wait did you just say that the fact that the Browns drafted some guys “raises questions about the Curse of Chief Wahoo”? I’d find a helmet and some pads quick if I were you, and I wouldn’t take them off for awhile. Nor would I leave my basement. Sweet feathery Jesus.

      • acto

        Frownie,
        I am certain that you meant do not leave your mom’s basement.
        Also, I am certain that you have far more ideas than free time, but if you are looking for ideas I would love to see what the kids here think about this year’s draft class of QB’s.
        Cousins and Russell Wilson are my “sleeper” choices.

    • wiseoldredbeard

      Totally agree. Sure, there is a chance that one or more of these players will bust, but I like having all these young guys, who could transform into a great unit, locked in for a while. Take the fact that there is a real chance RGIII gets injured due to play style (certainly not hoping (in fact, hoping not), but just saying it is a chance), and it is hard not to like. With a solid D unit, a new offensive coordinator, and a full pre-season to get up to speed, and we could be surprised this year. Here’s hoping…

    • bupalos

      While I’m leaving the jury way out on Weeden and his hyperactive panic button, I don’t think I’d trade that bundle for RGIII at this point.

      Don’t tell P

  • Hopwin

    Last link is broke boss.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Should be OK now. Thanks.

  • The Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs

    Competition is a great thing. Bringing this kid in only creates more legitimate competition among the WRs for PT. Which makes everyone work harder… which makes everyone get better…

    Playoffs!

  • nj0

    I like it. Kind of like Waiters, Gordon is a tremendously talented young man who made some dumb choices and now, because of it, has something to prove.

  • nj0

    Also, you can’t say our front office is being timid.

    It’s nearing “put up or shut up” time and the bosses seem to know this.

    • bupalos

      I guess that’s where the “desperate” comment comes in. But they showed with the pretty aggressive pursuit of RGIII that the heat is on a bit–as much as it’s panned here as some kind of failure of will, they offered as much or more than anyone ever has for any player in any NFL draft.

      • nj0

        If you’re gonna go, may as well go big.

        • ClevelandFrowns

          That’s what Gordon and his homey said before they left for Taco Bell.

          • wiseoldredbeard

            No, that what they said before they decided to hit the bong. Before they went to taco bell they said: “Dude, I could really go for some guacamlito sauce?” http://www.hulu.com/watch/1447/

          • nj0

            “Don’t forget the pillows.”

  • ClevelandFrowns

    The reaction by others throughout the league following the Browns selection was equal parts surprise and negative. Said one high-ranking NFL executive speaking on the condition of anonymity, “I was stunned that [the Browns] took [Gordon] that high. What a roll of the dice… and in the second round? That’s the No. 34 overall pick!” Another showed his reaction to the news via a text: “Desperate move. Wow. Staff is on the hot seat trying to make something happen…” Former league executive Tony Softli, who last served as the Vice President of player personnel for the St. Louis Rams and previously as the director of college scouting for the Carolina Panthers, had this to say about the selection on Twitter: “Cleveland Browns make a pivotal decision in 2012 Supplemental Draft that could have a negative rippling effect on front office and coaches” – Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=90107&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR

    • wiseoldredbeard

      Honestly, I could care less what other execs have to say. We’re just going to have to see how this one plays out. Gutsy? Yes! But come on: everyone is sitting around giving the Redskins brass BJs for risking their next three drafts on RGIII, and this is no where near as risky. Amazing how that seems to get left out of the conversation. I like the guts. Can’t win without them.

      • eldaveablo

        I’m with you. When do executives ever say, “Well, it’s a good thing they used their second rounder, because he wouldn’t have made it into the 3rd. WE were going to jump all over him.” This is just posturing.

        SI had him graded as a second rounder, with a pretty nice write-up: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/07/11/nfl-supplemental-draft-2012/index.html#ixzz20Qyp5hKA

        • bupalos

          Is there some law that says you have to get 10 opinions before just watching footage that shows the guy is big, fast, has moves, and catches the ball well?

          I would have preferred they moved this pick in the regular draft and gone for Alshon Jeffrey– something like that probably would have been available to them. But this guy seems like a little more power and the same speed for a similar price, I’m good with it. There’s no way I’d rather have anyone that came in the 3rd or later than this guy. Stats look awesome, film looks good, seems smart, what’s not to like?

          • ClevelandFrowns

            I’m not interested in arguing with the rest but how can you say his stats look awesome when a 5’10 guy doubled them in the same Big 12 pop gun offense.

          • eldaveablo

            Lemme get my neon rose colored glasses…

            Maybe he would have more opportunity for catches if he didn’t score a TD every 6th catch?

          • bupalos

            I mean more vitals than sophomore(!) year production.

            6-3, 220, 4.5, catches the ball the right way with pretty gluey hands. That doesn’t grow on trees, and it’s not available past the 2nd round really ever.

            But there’s not much football under his belt, so maybe a bit risky.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            Carlton Mitchell? Or did he not catch the ball the right way? Not gluey enough? I don’t know.

          • Bryan

            An important perspective in judging this pick is the following: Gordon replaces a 2nd rounder from NEXT year. Thus, the pick is justified if Gordon, after a full year in the NFL, will be as good as a WR available in the 2nd round next year.

            Given this, I think the pick is much more defensible. Essentially, we have drafted next year’s 2nd rounder TODAY and given him a full year to get a head start.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            That’s a good point.

          • wiseoldredbeard

            Particularly considering that our receiving corps is in pretty weak shape, so having him on board doesn’t require taking snaps from a quality receiver.

          • bupalos

            >>>Carlton Mitchell?>>>

            Good point, this seems to be Carlton’s spot and maybe this means they are cutting bait there. But I don’t think there’s a comparison between the way these two guys move on the football field. Carlton is a great specimen too, but he can’t seem to throw a move without knocking himself off his own feet.

          • DAT law firm

            1. The 5’10 guy went before the second round.
            2. 5’10 guy was a senior and his quarterback was performing in a way that led to him the Heisman and the #2 pick. Meanwhile, Gordon’s statistics came as a sophomore on a not particularly good team and not as the #1 option.
            3. In a different vein, nobody mocked the Jets for taking Stephen Hill in the second round. How can this be worse?
            4. I do hope that it’s being proactive rather than panicking.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            Im talking about the 5’10 guy’s junior year, 2010, on that same not particularly good team, where he still caught twice as many passes as Gordon did.

            Hill and the GT offense are a lot different, too.

            With you 100% on number 4.

          • Cranky M

            I hardly see how you can say he doubled Gordon’s stats. More catches and more yards, but significantly less yards per catch.

          • wiseoldredbeard

            Well, I heard that some anonymous source say it was a reach on the Dan Patrick show, so he must suck.

    • nj0

      What exactly does he mean by this – “Cleveland Browns make a pivotal decision in 2012 Supplemental Draft that could have a negative rippling effect on front office and coaches”?

      • nj0

        Never mind. I misread that. I thought it said “offices”, suggesting it was going to influence other NFL teams.

      • bupalos

        It means someone thought they were swiping him with a later 2nd and got really pissy on twitter.

        • nj0

          There is very little I hate more than when people (esp. in the media) say, “X could cause Y!”

          So your analysis is that doing something might possibly result in something. That’s some bold predicting there, Lou.

    • Rbwhitney

      “Surprise” and “negative”? 22 of 32 teams travelled specifically to see Gordon’s pro day. We don’t know who might have drafted him in Round 3, or for that matter Round 2 (Schefter says no one drafted him in Round 2 but that info is not available–he called around and asked and why in the world would they admit they drafted him at all? (Anyone else who drafted him #2 looks like they got beat by the Browns and no one ever wants to admit that). This guy is 6’4″, 225#, runs a 4.5 and by all accounts can catch the football. Why would anyone think that, had he played this year at Utah and come out in the draft, he would not have been taken in the first or second round. Moreover, after Haden, Ward, Lauvao, Taylor, Sheard, Pinkston, Hagg, Skrine, and his track record with the Eagles, why would we think that Heckert is the panic-stricken jerk he is being made out to be. I get that he fired all the Savage holdovers–including a friend of mine. I get that they fired Eric Mangini. We need to let it go.

      • ClevelandFrowns

        You forgot Greg Little, too. It’s a good point, and maybe he turns out to be great, but the fact is this guy hasn’t proven a heck of a lot on the football field in actual games. I think that’s where the concern comes from.

    • Rbwhitney

      It seems to me that, if Heckert was “panicked” and chased after Gordon for that reason, and the claim is that this “panic” stems from losing out on Kendall Wright in the draft, it seems to me we would have seen him jump all over Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle in the first or second round. Instead Heckert comes out as somewhat picky about what he wants.

  • AlvaroEspinoza10

    after going defense and defense in first two drafts, looks like heckert is trying to get all the offense done in one draft. its tough to not like this pick just because MoMass is no longer a default starter on our team. really hope its worth a 2nd rounder– seems obvious that they plan to have greg little mentoring this guy w similar experiences in a certain way. little was a similar personality ‘gamble’ back in the day and so far has worked out, at least for off-field issues. put them in a dorm together for training camp.

    I agree with frowns and think the D will be awful this year, especially w taylor out: sheldon brown will be even slower this year (I’m hitting the bottle already), and the linebackers will be shredded. hoping next year’s draft/free-agency will be LBx2 and CB… and fill in more gaps on offense?

    • Petefranklin

      C B then LBx2!

  • AlvaroEspinoza10

    one day I’d like to see you spell out exactly what you’d like the Browns to do that would make you happy. not being snarky here, just interested

    • wiseoldredbeard

      Willing to bet 1,000,000 chedder bay points that it involves rehiring Mangini.

      • bupalos

        I’m going to guess the answer is “win.” And I’m up 2,000,000 cheddar points on you if I’m right.

        • AlvaroEspinoza10

          *Browns front office

          win, sure. but what will it take to get us there? i like my negativity tempered with suggestions on how exactly it can/should be done better

          • CleveLandThatILove

            Read the bio, guys. The “Frowns has a dream” speech.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            All of these answers combined are correct. The new statement of policy on commenting has already done wonders for this place. And we’ve even got a few newbies today. #pinsandneedles

  • Jim

    Falling asleep in the Taco Bell Drive Thru is much easier than one would think. I had a buddy who drove to Taco Bell, inebriated, at around 2 in the morning. During ordering he also fell asleep only to be woken by the Taco Bell drive thru operator who got into the car and drove his car out of the drive thru line; after first having him picking up his food.

    Unfortunately for my friend, Taco Bell drive thru operator called the police. Fortunately for my friend, it was the Akron PD who showed up. Not only did he not get arrested, but he ate tacos in the parking lot with the APD. The moral of the story being; when making a late night run for the border, look for the one’s in Akron.

    • nj0

      Taco Bell on E. Market by the campus?

      Free advice: there is no place worse to go when drug/high at 2am than the Taco Bell drive through.

      • Jim

        Near Chapel Hill. Just so happens to be on the Akron, as opposed to Cuyahoga Falls, side of the area. Lucky for my friend.

      • ClevelandFrowns

        “There is no place worse to go when drunk/high at 2am than the Taco Bell drive through.”

        Jim’s story strongly suggests that the opposite is true, as long as you’re in Akron. This likely has a lot to do with LeBron’s Akron v. Cleveland problem.

        • nj0

          The place called the popo on him.

    • Petefranklin

      AKRON RULES, even if the locals do think they’re better then their yankee counterparts. Does the original Dawg Pound I.E. Frank& Hans still go to the Bucket stop before the games?

  • http://twitter.com/musicman06 Chris Music

    Thumbs up on the Three-Six link, Frowns!

  • MrFlanny

    This feels like every pick in last years draft, a little bit of a reach.
    It will be easier to trust this front office when we start racking up W’s.
    Until then, meh.

  • ChuckKoz

    all i heard going into this supplemental draft was that if he goes in the 2nd-3rd round, it would be a desperate team/management that needs to win now would be a team likely to reach on him. (note: all i heard about it was a 5 minute portion of the dan patrick show today)

    then there are these quotes:

    Said one high-ranking NFL executive speaking on the condition of anonymity, “I was stunned that [the Browns] took [Gordon] that high. What a roll of the dice… and in the second round? That’s the No. 34 overall pick!” Another showed his reaction to the news via a text: “Desperate move. Wow. Staff is on the hot seat trying to make something happen…”

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=90107&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR

    but hopefully management proves me wrong and they got another greg little.

    • bupalos

      >>>proves me wrong>>>

      correction hopefully they prove a portion of the dan patrick show and some random anonymous-sourced tweet wrong.

      • ChuckKoz

        well, actually, i now have an opinion that 2nd roundwas a reach and the act of desperate management. this opinion was formed before knowing the browns made the pick. and my opinion is supported by a leading nfl pundit (i believe mike florio was on patrick) and an anonymous executive.

        but i maybe they are wrong and my opinion is proved wrong.

        • Bryan

          Just posted this in a convo above, but I think it bears repeating:

          An important perspective in judging this pick is the following: Gordon replaces a 2nd rounder from NEXT year. Thus, the pick is justified if Gordon, after a full year in the NFL, will be as good as a WR available in the 2nd round next year.

          Given this, I think the pick is much more defensible. Essentially, we have drafted next year’s 2nd rounder TODAY and given him a full year to get a head start.

          • ChuckKoz

            that is a good point.

          • bupalos

            yeah, there is always some forward value to picks. But you also have to remember that they could have flipped this pick during the actual draft and probably
            (with maybe some of that second day trash) had Alshon Jeffrey NOW. Although they burned a bunch of second day stuff to secure Richardson, so I can’t remember if the ammo for that really was there or not.

            Again, I like the move.

          • jpftribe

            Good point, and added bonus of being able to complain about a fresh pick in July. We’ll have 7-10 to complain about next April.

  • BIKI024

    don’t underestimate the fact that Jordan Norwood’s dad was Gordon’s position coach down in Baylor. not just cause of Jordan, but Heckert has close ties with Mr. Norwood and they love the kid. they know the weed thing was uncharacteristic of his work ethic, so hopefully he comes in and busts his butt.

    • jim

      Color me unconcerned about one positive marijuana test. Gordon could have smoked a single joint on Saturday night and tested positive weeks, or months later, depending on what sort of test was utilized.

      If he’s making late night runs to Swensons every weekend, then maybe I’ll start to worry.

      • http://www.redright88.com/ TitusPullo94

        Seriously, the dude went to a Baptist school, of course they are going to be twitchy about a little weed.

        Gordon should have gone to a Big 10 school, then no one would have cared or, if they noticed, would have just covered it up.

      • Petefranklin

        Well hopefully he hasn’t gotten the In-and-Out urge in the newly conquered Dallas market.

        • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

          I’m going to have serious health issues if they ever make it to NE Ohio.

        • Jim

          That’s what got to Troy Smith before the 2007 National Title game. I still can recall him discussing how great the burgers were in interviews prior to the game. That was an omen as to what was to come.

  • Petefranklin

    Since I know I’m Mr. Negative, I feel that I should comment on how much I sort of like the pick. It did make me excited at work when I heard. The guy is very fast supposed hands and very long. Just think last week we were worried if Benjamin was tall enough. Now we have the same speed who can catch over small corners I think H&H are desperate but if this roll comes up come line, I think were in business despite the secondary. At this point in time can anyone give me a reason not to like? I had reasons not to like the draft but I dont have any qualms with this pick. It will soon become obvious whether proper scouting was done or whether this was the last rowboat left on the S.S. Walrus…. a 3 hour tourrer, a 3hour tourrer.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      I’m just glad I’m not the one who’s Mr. Negative.

      Here we go, Brownies, here we go!

      • Petefranklin

        WOOF!WOOF!

  • Hopwin

    I for one welcome our 3rd (or is it 4th?) number 2 wide receiver.

    • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

      If you think the Browns have a problem collecting number 2 receivers, watch a couple Redskins games this year.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Can we talk about HOW FREAKING HIGH you have to be to fall asleep in the actual drive through? I mean I’ve smoked a lot in my lifetime, but that is tremendous hustle by Gordon there.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Purple Drank, bruh. Purple Drank. It’s the only explanation.

      • wiseoldredbeard

        Agree. Must also remember that he wasn’t the one driving — dude might have been snoozing long before arrival to the drive through. My guess is the smoke night cap to purple drank was too much… And, come on, who hasn’t taken a little snooze in the passenger seat on a late night run to the boarder…

        • Hamfist

          Truth

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