Mike Holmgren Is Getting Squirrelly (2012 Browns Season Preview)

by Cleveland Frowns on September 5, 2012

Our official Season Preview for the 2012 Cleveland Browns kicks off with some Pulitzer-worthy work by Marla Ridenour in yesterday’s Akron Beacon Journal on Mike Holmgren’s “alarming” response to renewed questioning of his promises earlier this spring that the Browns would “make a pretty good jump” in the win column from 2011 to 2012:

“I hope so,” Holmgren said of the big jump. “You know what? Any time we actually talk about the numbers and the wins and losses, I get a little squirrelly, and I don’t mean to backtrack or anything like that. It’s just our schedule. I think we’re playing the NFC East. Our division’s tough. We play a pretty good schedule. But having said that, I think we’re gonna be a better football team this year.”

Of course the Browns have a new owner now and Holmgren has a new boss, so to see the Big Show finally get around to recognizing that Ws and Ls aren’t everything the moment he gets a squirrel in his pants is naturally ridiculous, hilarious, and tremendously satisfying. But before we get to why it’s also alarming, a brief review:

Starting with Holmgren on January 5, 2011, explaining his decision to fire Eric Mangini after a five-win season in which the Browns shocked the NFL by establishing themselves as “one of the league’s toughest outs,” and game-planned dominating wins over two double digit favorites, without the benefit of a Grade D NFL quarterback, or even a roster as good as the University of Alabama’s:

“Unfortunately this business at times and even though it wasn’t the only factor, I want to win here. We want to win here in Cleveland and we did not win enough games this year. … I think my expectations for the team and for this season were higher.”

And here’s Holmgren last March, after a 2011 season in which the Browns didn’t just regress in every phase of the game, but were actually soul shatteringly horrible under Holmgren’s hand picked successor, Pat Shurmur, nephew of Holmgren’s old buddy Fritz, who was on absolutely nobody’s list as a legitimate NFL head coaching candidate:

“Going from 4-12 (the 2011 record) to 6-10 isn’t good enough, and that’s been conveyed. I believe we’re going to be a little better than that … a lot better than that.”

And again in May:

“The bottom line is that everybody wants the team to do well. Everyone wants the team to do better. I expect us to take a pretty good jump this next season.”

Now enter Jimmy Haslam and an anointed rookie quarterback who couldn’t get in the end zone in the preseason and fumbled every time someone touched him. The regular season is here, Pat Shurmur is still the head coach, and now Holmgren wants to take back all that talk about wins and losses. This, despite that the Browns have added a remarkable seven first-and-second round draft picks since Shurmur was hired in 2011, with young building blocks like Alex Mack, Mohammed Massaquoi, Joe Haden, T.J. Ward and Shaun Lauvao having had another season to mature along with a more experienced veteran core that includes Joe Thomas, Ben Watson, Athyba Rubin, D’Qwell Jackson and Sheldon Brown.

But however it turns out, it’s not that a football executive can’t be forgiven for some off-season puffery. And it’s not that Holmgren might not have had other reasons for firing Mangini in the first place (“philosophical differences,” coaching trees, etc., ask Pat), even though the only one that he emphasized or could explain at all was that Mangini “didn’t win enough” in 2010. It’s just that everything that happens with these Browns and everything else that comes out of Holmgren’s mouth — especially this latest revelation that now, after everything else, we’re finally going to start getting squirrelly at talk about Ws and Ls –  tells us that whatever those other reasons were, they were complete horseshit.

“Alarming” is as good a description as there is for it. Kudos to Ridenour for putting her playoff tickets at risk to say as much.

And at least we’re all on the same page now. It really is completely insane to base an evaluation of the progress of an NFL organization solely on Ws and Ls. So now everyone knows that if the 2012 Browns show us some signs — like if they can register a pair of blowout wins against playoff teams (including the defending Super Bowl champs), if they can take a conference finalist to overtime, and if they can beat or come within one score of all but say three of their opponents, the rest of whom end up being playoff teams with one being the AFC champ who turns out to be the only team that beats the Browns by more than ten points this season — then we’ll know that they did in fact make a “pretty good jump,” and that they really are a significantly better football team than they were the year before, no matter where the final record ends up. And nobody will have to be squirrelly at all about anything.

But of course, if the 2012 Browns can’t show signs like this, the result will just be exactly what anyone should expect when a disinterested and impetuous born billionaire reacts to a publicity stunt by an illiterate circus clown by inviting the clown to a meeting . . .

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Official Cleveland Frowns 2012 Browns Season Prediction:

0-16.

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Alternative Official Cleveland Frowns 2012 Browns Season Prediction:

However many unwatchable backdoor wins against third string USFL-type quarterbacks it will take to put them just outside of the draft position necessary to select the player that they really need.

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Important Charts for 2012 Browns Season:

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Quote of the 2012 Browns Season:

“Anybody can gut a roster and replace it with rookies and first-year players. Really, anybody can do that.” – Legendary Browns beat writer Tony Grossi

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Other season preview-type things:

Cleveland Frowns fan forecast at Kissing Suzy Kolber

Youth, Culture and the Browns Final 53-man Roster

A Quick Splash of Refreshing Honesty: NFL.com Writes then Deletes, ‘Browns could realistically be 0-13′

UPDATE: “Where to for Playoff Tickets? Mike Holmgren out as Browns President

  • ClevelandFrowns

    I’m not posting the Cheddar Bay open thread until Friday so if you want any action before that, post in the most recent comment thread, including for tonight’s NFL opener here.

    The lines for Week 2 are here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11485578/ched_wk2.pdf

    • ClevelandFrowns

      The All Play for Week 2 is naturally Eagles/Browns. We’ll wait for Thursday’s line.

  • ClevelandFrowns

    Also recommending a 20 unit play on Steelers at 15-1 to win the Super Bowl. Even if they don’t go all the way, it could be a relatively easy hedge in the second and/or third week of the playoffs, along the lines of last preseason’s recommended play on the Saints at 13-1.

    Two seasons before last I recommended the Colts at 6-1, which of course was an extremely easy hedge on Super Bowl Sunday. I only pick one of these every year, FWIW.

    • BIKI024

      another loser bet for the Frowner

    • bupalos

      I think this is the year the Steelers O-line caves in and Big Ben’s bones start to show the effects of rapey-syphilis and the motorcycle accident.

      • BIKI024

        not to mention the lack of talent/depth at RB and the secondary. i’ve seen plenty of “experts” with the Steelers not making the playoffs.

        what happened to all the downward spiral talk??

        • ClevelandFrowns

          How many times can you keep asking the same stupid question?

          For the last time: The Steelers downward spiral talk ended when Mike Holmgren fired the one Browns coach to beat the Steelers in the last nine years.

          • BIKI024

            you must’ve finally chewed off your face because that makes no sense whatsover.

    • http://twitter.com/TDDeBord David DeBord

      For what its worth, Football Outsiders gives PIT a 75% chance to make the playoffs, 3rd highest in the NFL. If you buy that, 15-1 is a nice bargain. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2012/2012-dvoa-projections

      • ClevelandFrowns

        I mean … sounds right to me.

  • bupalos

    A little harsh. But definitely very good. Something more like Evan Williams than Maker’s.

    By the way, Holmgren just said “a pretty good jump.” He didn’t say off of what, or into what, so I think you should ease off.

    I’m not really sure why he’s being such a puss about things now, he’s likely going to be gone by the time any of this rebounds.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Fair.

    • BIKI024

      you mean Evan Williams than Jack Daniel’s.. they even have similar packaging

      • bupalos

        I’d hardly bother to distinguish between the two except EW is tastier and punches it’s way through better in a Memphis*.

        *Manhattan made with Tennessee bourbon. Add a dash of frack fluid and it’s a Knoxville.

        • BIKI024

          living in Williamsburg, i’ve had my fair share of Evan, and it’s no where near as tasty as Jack, which means it tastes like gasoline. it does the trick, but it’s rough

          • bupalos

            Well, no accounting for taste. To me jack is half way to being Southern Comfort and an eighth of the way to being HotDamn!

          • nj0

            I have not drank Jack since they quietly diluted all their labels to 80 proof.

          • acto

            Bupa,
            I am with you there, Jack tastes like pancake syrup to me. It is smooth and sweet, but some kids like that. My best friend has been sucking down Southern Comfort since we were in Middle School. I think all of the sugar contributes to his somewhat ill proportioned 6’5″ 459# frame.
            I will stick with cheap gin, anejo tequila, or ch less than svelte 6’5″ 450# frame.eap Argentinian Malbec.

          • mo_by_dick

            Evan Williams Single Barrel is my jam, though.

          • BIKI024

            Can’t beat the $5 patriot special: shot of Evan and PBR

          • actovegin1armstrong

            Congratulations on moving to the top and supplanting the also-rans Biki.
            You are restore a more natural order around here.

          • BIKI024

            that it is edward, that it is

  • Jim

    What exactly are the variables on the “X” and “Y” axis on that quarterback chart? Where would Weeds end up on it? Below Matt Cassell, right?

  • nj0

    He thinks we play the NFC East?

  • nj0

    That QB chart drives me mad!

    How is Philip Rivers so far ahead of Tony Romo?

  • ChuckKoz

    good stuff frowns. pulitzer potential as well.

    side note: would like to know the “all play” of the week. moreover, I request we know that play by tuesday of every week. I may have that game in my possible pool of picks so far, or may not. so it impacts my decision on what games to play tonight and thursday.

    is it the browns/eagles? sort of feel that would be more than appropriate.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Thanks and yes, good call. I’m not used to the All Play thing yet. Eagles/Browns is the obvious choice, as noted above.

      We’ll wait for Thursday’s line.

      • http://twitter.com/TDDeBord David DeBord

        Eh, my choice for the All Play would be the 1st game of the season, but it is Cleveland Frowns, so I understand the logic.

      • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

        I know this is going to sound stupid, but I am fundamentally opposed to picking against the Browns. In the case that they are the All-Play (and hopefully not often), would the Executive Committee consider accepting the forfeiture of the half point, and allowing a substitute game to be selected? At the very least, could we avoid the inclusion of any future chapter in the Pat Shurmur Dynasty being a mandatory play in Cheddar Bay?

        Just asking, I’m not holding my breath on this one, by the way.

        • Art_Brosef

          Lemme answer this for you. No.

          We are all stuck with it, every week.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            Yeah, no shot. This is reality football. The All Play is the All Play.

            Probably safe to assume the Browns won’t be playing in many more compelling games after Sunday so you shouldn’t be under much pressure to reevaluate the wisdom of your fundamentalism.

          • Art_Brosef

            I don’t even know what that means. There are lots of rules in golf I think are stupid, but I still love to play.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            That was mostly in response to Jeff, regarding his fundamental opposition to picking against the Browns.

          • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

            Anything that starts with the “I know this is going to sound stupid” preamble is more likely than not going to be dead on arrival, but I thought I’d ask.

            I appreciate the Executive Committee taking the time to respond; this Cheddar Bay autocracy is apparently capable of donning the mask of fairness from time to time.

        • GrandRapidsRustlers

          I hit like because it is the first time the words Pat Shurmur Dynasty were ever typed…well the second now.

          Never a good sign when there are 3 guys (Childress, Jauron, Rhodes) on the staff who if they were named the interim coach 48 hours before the opener you really would not panic.

          • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

            A quick Google search confirms that I’m the only one that’s ever used it, at least within Google’s reaches on the interwebs.

        • bupalos

          Frownie’s just mad about the lobsterita and trying to game ways to come back. He knows he can flash the orange cape at me and get a freebie.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTN6r39Mwco

          • ClevelandFrowns

            Most of this is true and I admire your solipsism.

  • GrandRapidsRustlers

    I’m going to stick with 2-14.

    The logic is this: You DO NOT give Childress a bye week to settle in as the new coach and that much time to prepare for the Cowboys.

    I also have them beating KC for fear of what would happen downtown if Quinn, Hillis, and Romeo combine to destroy the Browns that day.

    • http://twitter.com/TDDeBord David DeBord

      I agree. The talent spread between teams makes losing ALL games very unlikely. Of course, Frowns is just being dramatic.

    • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

      I had the home wins against Kansas City and Cincinnati to get to two wins on my board, after I scratched out the win I was giving them at Oakland when I considered the odds of a two-game winning streak.

  • Beeej

    PML,
    How many of your relatives were involved in The Alternative Official Cleveland Frowns 2012 Browns Season Prediction? I think I see my wife in the upper right hand corner.

    • http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML

      That is raycess. I didn’t see too many souped up Hondas so I can’t be sure.

      • Beeej

        If Dr. Watley can make fun of Jews because he converted, then I feel I should be able to make fun of Asians. What good is marrying a Korean if you’re not allowed to use the jokes?

        • http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML

          Well, that makes perfect sense. At least you had a good reason.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Also pictured: A reenactment of What the Eagles defensive line is going to do to the Browns offensive line on Sunday:

  • p_forever

    hey acto – we look super good together atop that c-bay side bar, right?

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Preemptive cool it.

      • p_forever

        nothing gold can stay – let us have our fun while we can thx :)

        • ClevelandFrowns

          Cripes.

          • p_forever

            Super cripes :/

    • acto

      Right p_4,
      We look good, well…. I have seen your pic, we make a classic Beauty and the Beast team.
      Just a simple question, no need for your husband to fly down and kick my ass but, (bad word play intended).
      How tall are you?

      • ClevelandFrowns

        GET A ROOM.

      • p_forever

        Cripes – romo is outplaying Manning and I’m about to lose my cozy spot on the c-bay chart and you’re worried about how tall I am? Oh fine 5’8″ (without my high heels). Now do something to make the giants start playing-thx.

  • mo_by_dick

    I’m gonna get in on Giants -4 vs. Cowboys … might have to punt the essay this week as I’m on vacation without reliable internet, but I’ll do my best. I’ve got a shitload of lobster coursing through my veins this week so it should be a good one for this particular competition.

  • thatsfine

    Frowns,
    Where you see a raging dumpster fire, some folks see a place to roast marshmallows. Barring something spectacular, that fire is going to be hot enough to vaporize anyone standing near it no later than the bye week.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M
  • Chris P.

    I’ll take Cincinnati U -4 over the Panthers of Pittsburgh tonight please.

    More, including essay, to come.

  • http://twitter.com/TDDeBord David DeBord

    Eh, the Browns won’t be 0-16, but they will be bad. I can’t see them squeaking even into 3rd place in the division unless the other teams have massive bad luck. I’d say 4-12 again, with a +- of 2.

  • http://twitter.com/TDDeBord David DeBord

    I will take NYG -4 vs Dal tonight. Regular play. Happy football everyone.

  • Davekolonich

    Is anyone else troubled by the comment: “I think we’re playing the NFC East this year.” Perhaps in person this sounded much different than in print. If not, we have just reached a new low point in Browns’ expansion history.

    The Browns’ Team President first didn’t know how “young” the team was and now isn’t even aware that the Browns play the NFC East.

    Wow.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      I’m no more troubled by one square inch of the raging dumpster fire than I am with any of the others.

  • BIKI024

    Cheddar Pick:
    Cowboys +4

    • Art_Brosef

      Biki, do you have thoughts behind this or is this just a “against the public play?”

      Not that the books (or you) dont know this, but the Boys were 0-6 ATS in their division last year, they are 12-25 ATS in their division since 2006, and the Giants have score 30+ points vs Dallas in six consecutive games.

      To look at the percentage of “public” action without: A) looking at the size of those bets vis-as-vis the size of the bets on the other side, and B) Which way the spread moves as a result to all of these aforementioned factors is completely worthless.

      To just say “the public is on side A so ill bet side B” is nonsensical.

      • BIKI024

        I have plenty of thoughts on it, but this wasn’t an essay pick so i didn’t choose to write an essay. Or are have the rules changed?? Are we supposed to write out our logic on each and every play Frownie?

        But thanks for the info statboy, we’ll see how it plays out.

        • Art_Brosef

          Im far from StatBoy, you smartass, but its rare for you to ever offer any other reasoning than “against the public” when it comes to wagering.

          And, no, the rules havent changed. But one of the main ideas of this entire contest is to share thoughts as it relates to wagering, so I thought Id ask if youd like to share any so as to enhance this forum.

          But I realize its hard for you to type with one of your hands stroking Holmgren and the other stroking Shurmur, so I apologize.

          I do have some thoughts. This Boys offensive line unit hasnt played so much as a single game together, preseason included. The Cowboys are also starting a rookie CB against what maybe the deepest WR group in the league. Also, the Cowboys tend to get over-bet (a la notre dame) and thus overvalued. And the Giants have the better QB and are at home.

          Anyone else? Id like to start the NFL season off with a win.

          • Petefranklin

            SB winners 12-0 SU opening night. I gave up betting against them a few years ago. It makes so much sense for them to lose but they never do.

          • CleveLandThatILove

            Mangini says Dallas.

          • BIKI024

            Ok, how bout the reason I’m taking the Boys, against my 2nd or 3rd favorite team, is because I was advised that some really smart bettors are on the Boys, so I’m goin with them..

            But to your point about inexperienced secondary, so are the Giants, lot of youth back there as well. But we’ll see how accurate your analysis is soon enough…

      • Petefranklin

        I may miss some things but my feelings are posted below right or wrong.

      • BIKI024

        So now the Boys are 13-26 ATS in their division.. and now a new streak starts with points allowed against the Giants.. oh wait, it’s 6 out of last 7 where the GMen scored 30+.. can’t wait to see how their next game goes.. will it be 6 of 8 or 7 of 8.. the suspense is killing me

        • Art_Brosef

          All correct, and Dallas was definitely the right side last night. But Biki, did I take NY for cheddar? Did I say I was betting on them? I was only trying to get your insight, beyond your mindless against the public mantra, since most people on this board took NY.

          • BIKI024

            Again, not really sure why you care for my “insight”, i was just minding my business and posting my cheddar pick. I guess I’ll expect you to do the same for everyone else when they post their picks without “insight”.

            Furthormore, not that i need to explain myselft, but there are other factors that go into my decision making process, but yes, if the public is heavily on the team i like, then i tend to stay away and vice versa.

          • Art_Brosef

            Holy fuck. I cared for your insight cause you were about the only one who picked the cowboys, and I was curious as to your take. But I guess that’s my bad for expecting you to say anything intelligent around here. Sorry for asking you to join the conversation,i won’t make that mistake again.

          • BIKI024

            Buddy, i guess you’re too intelligent to comprehend what i wrote. I already told you what my “insight” was, my book said his sharps went hard on Dal, combined with the fact that everyone and their grandma was on the Giants, i went with Dallas. Or do you want meaningless ATS stats? Lot of good that did for NYG bettors

          • Art_Brosef

            By insight, I guess I meant YOUR personal opinions of the teams based on what YOU observe on the field or YOUR opinions of off season moves, etc. If you don’t have any, that’s fine. And yes, I’m sure NY bettors aren’t feeling too good. I’m glad I wasn’t one of them.

          • BIKI024

            what the F is your problem dude? all i did was post my pick, for pete’s sake. no wonder i’m banned for commenting because i posted a pick without all the in depth analysis you make on each and every one of your plays? good grief

          • BIKI024

            My personal feelings about the team? really? I’ve learned that even knowing every detail about each team typically results in me losing the bet. so the last 2 seasons i’ve been getting info from my book who tells me his sharp guys plays and i ride them, hence the reason i never did Cheddar before. these guys are decent bettors, 50 to 100 dimes a game, so i’d rather follow what they are doing then to mindlessly stare after ATS record on the turf with the roof closed stat after another.

            after years of decent runs here and there, but overall losing seasons, some worse than others, my goal is to win money, not try to show off how many stats I can rattle off about the matchup or what Rob Ryan ate for dinner last night.

            but i’m playing by the rules for Cheddar and wrote an essay and won the pick. otherwise, it was a real treat reading everyone’s essays which were LOSERS. they always sound so confident.. then all their hopes go, bloop, down the fricking drain.

          • Art_Brosef

            Like I said, if thats your strategy, thats fine. And I agree, winning money is the ultimate goal.

            But why would somebody write an essay that DIDNT sound confident?

            Also before you get on your hight horse, my guess is you will lose an essay this year, and everyones essay last week wasnt a loser.

            Holy shit its no wonder you get banned from commenting.

  • Cousin_of_Cohen

    HurriKain Colter will take the Giants -4 tonight.

    Rest of the picks and essay to come.

    Love the analysis Frownie – I was cracking up when I saw the pictures you posted. Living in Chicago, it’s amazing how the perception of the team is different here than in Cleveland. I was back home in Cleveland the weekend the Browns played the Eagles in the pre-season, and man, was the media positive.

    I know I know, it’s good business for WKYC to talk about how good the Browns will be, but I’d say a win regression is definitely in order, and 0-16 is not out of the question

  • rodofdisaster

    Gee, Holmgren…funny when you’re hired with one set of expectations then someone else becomes your boss and what you thought was progress might not be good enough.

    Oopsy?!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-White/100000446546049 Steve White

    It will never happen, of course, but wouldn’t it be a hoot if the new owner cleaned house and then hired Mangini?

    • ClevelandFrowns

      I mean, if Haslam is doing his job correctly that is exactly what he will do, and a “hoot” is a massively understated description of what it will be if he does.

  • Petefranklin

    CHEDDAR PICK #1 NY GIANTS -4 I think, I just bet this at -3.5 and -105. Public seems to like the boys, but the SB winner seems to always win on opening night. Too many offensive injuries forn dallas and a fired up Dline spell doom for Romo.

    • BIKI024

      where you getting your public info from? the line started at 3 and is now 4, which leads me to believe the public is on Big Blue, especially since 75% of sportsbook.com bettors on NY. GL

      • Petefranklin

        The wiseguys hammered this line into shape long ago, that was definitely not public $$. The late move is. I see why now Whitten is in. I dont believe any of the crap on most websites as to $$. They report what the books want them to. Ive seen 80% games with zero move on the spread, that should tell you all you need to know about those public betting #s. Besides the public as a whole is much smarter nowadays with all the info available.

        • BIKI024

          The sharps that bet with my book are on the Boys.. it is what it is.. best of luck

          • Petefranklin

            It looks like you indeed are correct, public does seem to be on NY. I got a great line though so even if I lose Im not upset, its headed back to 4 at 5 dimes. If the public didn’t win sometimes who would pay the sharps?

  • BIKI024

    wow, i guess I’m not the only person in the country, let alone NYC who likes the Browns OVER. The NY Post did annual “Who ya got?” over/under prediction and they picked the Browns over:

    ASH: Browns over 5 1/2 (Biki has it at 4.5)
    I may be the only person in the US, including Cleveland, who likes what the Browns have done with their offense. Between Brandon Weeden, Trent Richardson and Greg Little, the Browns have a nice, young group of talent on the offensive side of the ball. Cleveland’s not-so-secret weapon, Josh Cribbs, is a dynamic playmaker who can swing a game or two by himself. Think about it, Cleveland can be awful, lose 10 games and I still come out on top here.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/nflblitz/who_ya_got_nfl_over_under_team_by_UkYOlc1hCO3ofIKuYUtVfK#ixzz25db3IASy

  • p_forever

    Hey hi I want in on the giants tonight. Here’s the essay: Eli > romo

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    i think i captured all the action in this thread.

    also got tweets from gavin and zara to play the giants.

    for bookkeeping, request that you include any ‘early week’ picks in your normal cheddar thread submittal (for auditing purposes).

    gracias.

  • Hopwin

    And now for something completely different: Chris Perez makes me laugh til I wet myself. Then I realize he’s right and cry a single lonely tear.

    • Kamov

      C. Perez and Mary Kay for YOLO king and queen.

      (More seriously, I think Perez just wants out.)

  • http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML

    I miss this guy almost as much as I miss Mangini:

    http://deadspin.com/5940870/rob-ryan-has-some-words-for-you-and-those-words-are-go-for-it-fuckface

    What he did with what he had is pretty commendable in my book. We are going to suck out loud this year. Seeing Vickers lighting dudes up makes me have a sad too.

    • Hopwin

      Ryan: “Ok guys we are going to drop into a cover 2 zone here.”

      Defense: “… wtf?”

      Ryan: “Haha j/k! OVERLOAD BLITZ!!!”

    • bupalos

      He is entertaining.

      Personally I thought the blitz madness he exhibited early on was counterproductive, but he actually calmed that down a lot later. Mangini had a good influence there I think.

      It’s worth noting that the play that got him to go into his wild celebratory rage and dare “fuckface” to go for it was as clean and clear a defensive hold/dpi as you’d be likely to see.

  • http://twitter.com/CapitalGG Gavin Gould

    Some housekeeping:

    2 early week Cheddar picks:
    1. Giants -4 v. Dallas: Defending champ has never lost mid-week opener and only didn’t cover once (2011). [was sent via twitter to kanicki & frownie Wednesday afternoon] [loss]
    2. UCincinnati -4 v. Pitt: Pitt fresh off ugly loss to Y-town St is clearly a bad team. UC has been essentially reloading 8-10 win teams in recent years. Biggest concern is Pitt already having game under belt, but they did just lose to Y-town St. But this game is in Cincy, so…

  • http://twitter.com/SadFactory Factory of Sadness

    “just outside of the draft position necessary to select the player that they really need.” – This is exactly how I feel this season is going to go down. Around 5 wins to put us in that tricky spot of the #6/7 pick.

    Also I can’t wait for you to rip into Banner once he rocks up.

  • Biff

    Loved it. Right on the money.

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