Shurmurball 2012 is LIVE

by Cleveland Frowns on September 9, 2012

Randy Lerner is gone, Art Modell is dead, and check your nuts because Mike Holmgren is getting squirrelly. The quarterback is a rookie who fumbled every time he was touched in the preseason, and the opponent is the team that led the league in sacks last year. The linebackers were pulled from the Parma JV squad on Tuesday, and LeSean McCoy is starting in 1,000% of fantasy leagues. The Browns are 1-12 on opening day since 1999, and it’s finally time for Shurmurball.

All that’s left to do now is grab your flask and say your prayers. The Browns are just the third NFL team since 2002 to be a touchdown-plus Week 1 home underdog. Our NFL picks for the week are here (including a pick for Eagles/Browns) and this is your opening week open thread. Here we go …

ClevelandFrowns

I’ll be at the game so will have limited ability to comment and tweet until later, because the NFL hates us and doesn’t want us to be able to communicate with anyone when we’re in their stadiums.
wiseoldredbeard

HERE WE GO BROWNIES, HERE WE GO!
manc

Thank God the Browns are off the hook on some kind of tribute to Modell. A) It’s wrong and B) It would have been a complete disaster.
TOJ

So you’re saying there’s a chance?!?!?

Oh, wait……no…..no, you’re not…..
Art_Brosef

Ill be at the game, and you all know where Ill be before and after. And I must feeling squirrely too, because I a have a ZERO dollar tab at the moment, which means there is plenty of room………
BIKI024

JAX +3.5
MIA +13
TB +2.5, always gotta take homedog division rival
- ClevelandFrowns
  
  Woof!
  - BIKI024
    
    dog day afternoon, including the Clownies! woof woof woof!
- https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki
  
  are these for cheddar?
  - BIKI024
    
    yessir, my bad, those are for Cheddar.. that should be 6 picks in total (Browns, USC essay, Cowboys, and the 3 above)
    - https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki
      
      thought so, all set.
      - BIKI024
        
        thx
https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

we’re going to win this game today.
i cant back this up.
but i really think we win it outright.
- Jim
  
  I’ll have whatever you’re having and a side of bath salts please.
  - https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki
    
    there’s plenty for everyone.
- actovegin1armstrong
  
  Right jk,
  It is all about field goals baby!
  Go Browns!
- bupalos
  
  really?!?!?!
BIKI024

FWIW, the Browns are now at +10, and there’s still 45 minutes till lines close. that’s 1.5 more than what it ‘s locked in at Cheddar.
- actovegin1armstrong
  
  I saw that, it sucks Biki, but da rules id da rules. I would still take the homedog at 8.5.
  - bupalos
    
    Batten down the hatches. Sail FORWARD. FUCK THE LINE!!!!
dubbythe1

Lord help us…
- bupalos
  
  S/He will.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    when?
Kamov

I’m just gonna sit back, relax, and, uh… dangit. Hold on, I’m gonna – ack – relax and… how’s this thi… there we go. Enjoy! I’m gonna enjoy my drinks and the football!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11485578/shurmur-drink.gif
- bupalos
  
  Excellent!
Yahmule

They’re pounding the crap out of that loser, Vick. Keep it up, defense.
- actovegin1armstrong
  
  I would like to see Vick take a Lambeau Leap into the Dog Pound.
  Is there one at the new stadium?
  - Yahmule
    
    I don’t know, but they probably aren’t letting guys carry kegs in camouflaged in doghouses anymore and that’s a damn shame.
    - actovegin1armstrong
      
      I was there for the Charlie Joiner bottle throwing contest. I miss Cleveland, especially on game days.
Yahmule

Oh, hell yeah, Trent. There’s a highlight that will be replayed about a million times. The Browns are laying the smack down today.
- bupalos
  
  yup, they were…
dubbythe1

We brought Weeden in because he already knows failure on a professional level… this keeps ringing over and over in my head.

Im not able to watch the game so I want some perspective on the completion % and the ints. Is it all Weeden? Staring down his target? Drops? Pressure? Horrible play calling? ALL OF THE ABOVE?

DRINK!
- bupalos
  
  That’s a great line.
- Some Drunk Guy
  
  All that and more. Run game is lacking, Schwartz is getting beat causing pressure Weeden can’t handle. Weeden’s accuracy has gone missing overthrowing receivers on two obvious TD passes. Drops and lackadaisical WR work.
  
  The Browns were practically handed a touchdown with a defensive hold penalty after Haden’s INT and still couldn’t score. Amazing.
  
  This team isn’t helping my alcoholism.
  - actovegin1armstrong
    
    It is helping my alcoholism!
    They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, Weeden made me miss Clot ChipsCoy and there is a liquor a short walk away.
    
    Drink
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      I stocked up prior to this game….kinda wish we’d been blown out, wouldn’t hurt as much.
    - bupalos
      
      Clot??? This is AWESOME!
    - NeedsFoodBadly
      
      In the immortal words of Space Ghost, “let’s drink until our hearts stop.”
- Warburton MacKinnon
  
  No he just sucks….but it is not all about him staring down a target.
  - bupalos
    
    more about dl’s staring down HIM.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      Way to true
- bupalos
  
  >>>We brought Weeden in because he already knows failure on a professional level… >>>
  
  It’s funny dubby, but this is almost my 1st reason for not wanting Weeden. He bounced around in the minor leagues (which is within hailing distance of working) and now he’s being handed millions of dollars.
  
  It’s hard to imagine that someone still has the delusion that it’s important to WIN after that experience. I think he’s collecting a paycheck and wondering why they’re allowing batters to charge the mound now.
  - BIKI024
    
    guys don’t typically come into the NFL in their 1st career start against one of the most ferocious defenses in the NFL and do well. yes, he sucked, but our “simple” overrated defense sure made Michael Vick grossly underperform as well. not defending weeden, because we could’ve won this game if he didn’t look scurred on every play, but per usual, guys typically progress game-by-game. let’s just hope the defense can be flying around as much as they did today.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    I said that before on this website..but was told I was nuts.
manc

Good God. That may have been the worst QB performance I’ve ever seen, including the immortal Baby Heath Shuler.

Also, RGIII looked like Johnny U against the Saints. I wonder if DirecTV is still running that special…
http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML

Is it jumping the gun to say that Brandon Weeden sucks? Or is it crazy that I was praying to see Colt McCoy in there and let Weeden lick his wounds and try again another day?
- bupalos
  
  Check out every throw. Any thing where he has to think on his feet with pressure, he sucks. That’s the mental skill of QB’s, and he doesn’t have it. I have a feeling too that it’s the hardest thing (apart from arm strength) to teach.
  
  Ah well, look like Matt Barkely’s on tap. Just figure out how to transfer McCoy’s toughness into that pussy and we’re golden.
  
  #mattbarkeleyisapussy
  - http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML
    
    Gimme a C! Gimme an O! Gimme an L! Gimme a T! What does that spell
    ?
    
    It spells we suck again. Barkley or bust – anything would look better than what we saw today – even a vajayjay.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      I kinda like looking at and playing with VJ’s
bupalos

Weeden needs to have the time and confidence to go into a high-leg-kick windup, and unless he gets it, he’s worthless. THIS IS ALL HE SHOULD PRACTICE. He left at least 10, maybe 14 points on the field because when someone get’s within 3 yards of him everything starts blinking red, sirens start baring, it just doesn’t work out not matter what. This team is close. But unless they can create a permanent 3 yard buffer around the quarterback, we’re a quarterback away. The price of which, I’m reminded, is 3-4 high first round picks.

#thisiswhyIscreamAtDraftParties.
- bupalos
  
  Oh, yeah, and thanks for the cheddar points.
ChuckKoz

fuck the browns for getting me excited. they are so bad, but somehow get me believing. pathetic by me, for sure.

and watching brandon weeden is like watching the final moments of Derek Anderson. sick as it gets.
- bupalos
  
  He’s got one hole. But it’s a hole so big you could drive south America into it. He can’t perform when the red lights go off. 14 points left on the field because he freaks.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    I think MCcoy would have got us at least one touchdown above our final score.
  - http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML
    
    He definitely wins the Depends Player of the Week.
- ClevelandFrowns
  
  Derek Anderson never played a game this bad.
  - golanbatrac
    
    Spergon Wynn never played a game this bad. Not kidding.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      Thing is neither Wynn not Anderson were handed the starting job with no audition..Wynn started because of injuries,Anderson because our starter sucked. Neither of them actually won a battle to become the starter..nor did Weesen,and it showed.
  - thatsfine
    
    Didn’t DA have a game against Buffalo where he was 2/18 for 22 yards that the Browns somehow won 6-3? That was pretty damn bad… I don’t know which performance is more terrible…. Kind of like debating which pile of shit smells the worst.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      But he did win the game.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/WEZ3PWTZHYEGNQ5NFAMWQ4IOHQ Mickey
        
        Anderson didn’t win that game. Jamaal Lewis and Billy Cundiff won that game.
    - bupalos
      
      I’ll defend Weeds a teensy. If little didn’t bobble a perfect strike right in his chest at the 2 yard line, the whole performance looks a little different. And out of 4 picks, 2 didn’t really hurt (basically punts) and 1 wasn’t his fault at all. The last one was really bad though. And obviously this is all just shining a turd.
      - Warburton MacKinnon
        
        I hate the fact that two things Weeden and Anderson have in common. Both can not throw a short pass,and they both throw to the other team.
Warburton MacKinnon

Is it at all possible to say we looked better than I thought we would,and our D was real fucking good. At the same time I think Richardson is still hurt,not sure he will ever be the back we want him to be..also Weeden didn’t fumble today,nor did we ever put the ball in Hardesteys hands…props for Juraon but no props for whomever are our offensive coaches are or their game plans for the team…Weeden looks scared and Richardson looks hurt,or at least runs that way. In Cleveland Heckart just can’t pick a healthy running back. I am guessing right now that we have a coach in Juraon..but not Shurmer.
- bupalos
  
  >>>no props for whomever are our offensive coaches are>>>
  
  yeah, I think shurmur is the name you are looking for….
  - Kamov
    
    Look, I know Childress is just a rookie OC for the Browns, but give him some credit for this too.
    - dubbythe1
      
      points for calling Chilly essentially a rookie in CLe.
      - bupalos
        
        Again, lots of problems on offense but the biggest thing was that weeden look liked he’s only taken a few preseason NFL snaps. Oh look, weeden’s only taken a few preseason nfl snaps.
        
        If we had gone to colt, this would have been a win. And no, I don’t think we should have gone to colt.
      - dukem1
        
        Vick took 12 snaps in the preseason…Granted, the Browns did seem to be all over him for the most part, but, the Eagles did manage to roll up a lot offense, and score the 2 TDs.
        Weeden just looked dismal, and I’m not so sure another week of practice will help much.
        This game was ours for the taking and we didn’t do it.
        Just expect we’ll be seeing 4-6 weeks of good, businesslike beatings before we get this close again.
    - bupalos
      
      Whoever had the call on deciding that weeden didn’t need any more live snaps is who should be hung.
      
      #hangShurmurNow
      - BIKI024
        
        we were in Vick’s face all day, he is going to have nightmares about orange helmets, we were on him like white on rice. he said so as much. if we can bring that sort of pressure every game, we give ourselves a chance.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    looked for him..but well he sucked too
- dubbythe1
  
  Our D was good until Philly remembered we are the Browns, and LeSean McCoy ripped off 10 yards per carry on their last possession.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    maybe.we should have played a MCoy?
  - bupalos
    
    Disagree in principle. That was a change of pace (an intelligent one) but we didn’t lack the firepower to shut it down, we just didn’t deploy it.
    
    #guessinggame
    - BIKI024
      
      LJ Fort catches that pass to him and we’ll be saying “we deployed it”. wow, that was a huge drop. but still, the kid is undrafted and making NFL plays, love it.
Bryan

I was a big Weeden guy. But that was hard to watch. He was completely lost and overwhelmed. Didn’t make a single top flight throw.

Defense was impressive. Wow. D-line looks fairly legit and LBs will be deep once the injured guys come back.
- bupalos
  
  d-line without last year’s #1. LB’s are still shallow, but they are a fuck of a lot cheaper than a QB.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    yes our LBs look bad and are shallow…but they still do for once look better than last years crop,have to give the D that. D-line seems it has depth…but I guess it could be worse
    - bupalos
      
      Oh don’t get me wrong. I’m SHOCKED by the LB play. In a good way.
      
      Still, the critical pass plays took advantage of our LB’s.
      - Warburton MacKinnon
        
        unfourtunately true..
    - BIKI024
      
      our LBs look bad?? for as young and inexperienced they are, they looked great, especially the rookies. obv dqwell was action jackson, but i liked the fight in the rooks. and the replacement refs F’d up on that Vick fumble, no way he had possession of that ball. i saw the replay 20 times, he didn’t have possession. if that goes our way it’s a completely different game. it is what it is.
      
      7 straight ATS wins in a row for Shurmur, for all you stat junkies and 8 of last 9.
- ClevelandFrowns
  
  We gave up 5 yards per carry.
  - Beeej
    
    That is what I saw. Seemed like Philly ran at will. I predict another highly rated pass defense.
Kamov

I’m not one of those people who think the Eagles are a Superbowl team (no team with Vick as QB is), but that said, I enjoyed the play of our defense today, and it was good to see Cribbs busting a few decent returns. The offense still looks terrible and Shurmur didn’t do uniquely humorous that I could see. So, positives and negatives from the game. Overall I enjoyed it.

Obviously the “what could have been” feeling with RGIII is only worse now than before.
- bupalos
  
  I felt like Shurmur did “do uniquely humorous.” (btw., I’ll be saving that formulation.)
  
  First, reason for not going for 2??? Listen to his answer closely because there isn’t one, so this is how stars are born.
  
  Second, reason for sticking with weeden in the regular season while benching him in the preseason????
  
  RGIII, well, yeah…but remember you’d have to trade weeden, richardson, next year’s 1 (barkley) and something else for him. But….yeah…maybe…
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    Not sure trading Richardson(if he is healthy) would not be a good thing…either he is still hurt(which means Heckart can’t in Cleveland draft a healthy RB),which he could be..or is scared of getting hurt again..at one point he had one yard for every time he got the ball.
    - bupalos
      
      Can’t really say much about him from that one. The line got stuffed all day.
      - Warburton MacKinnon
        
        His first 3 carries he got 3 yards. Not the kinda back I want to pin my hopes on..I never saw what he did in College so,it is quite possible he had game then. Don’y know,and don’t care live up to your billing or you are just another failed drafy choice.
  - Kamov
    
    Right now I’d def rather have RGIII than Weeden, Barkley, Richardson, and Schwartz(sp?).
- actovegin1armstrong
  
  It was only one game for Weeden.
  He had a horrible case of “happy feet”, but Philly does have a good pass rush.
  RG3 had a great game against a Saints defense that has been under fire to say the least for a long time.
  It was only one game for RG3.
  
  Shall we wait a while? I do not think that Weeden will leave his legacy in football a step below Spergon Wynn and RG3 will not make Tom Brady look like Marsha Marsha Marsha Brady.
  We should not jump to any delusions.
  - NeedsFoodBadly
    
    “We should not jump to any delusions.”
    
    But that’s literally the only fun I can have as a Browns fan.
    
    WE SHOULD’VE DRAFTED RGIII AND SIGNED GARCON.
    
    In reality, I know that if we did that, Garcon would have a 32 game suspension for injecting horse steroids into his brain and RGIII’s legs would’ve spontaneously ejected from his torso on the first snap of the first preseason game.
    
    But, like… are there any Browns fans left that aren’t horrible masochists? Is there anything else that explains rooting for this team? All I have left is the exquisite lash of the last minute loss, and the resultant bitching and moaning in the aftermath.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      Nah, for me at least I am a glutton for punishment. Which means you are right.
The Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs

MANGINI ALSO WOULDN’T HAVE GONE FOR TWO…

OH WAIT, YES HE WOULD HAVE BECAUSE HE HAD THE DISCIPLINE TO NOT GET HIS ROCKS OFF OVER A PICK-6 AND FORGET THE SCORE!!!

AUUGH!!!
- bupalos
  
  Jesus I am so past falling for the Lucy shit I can’t even tell you. I’ll forgive you because you’re like 17 or whatever.
- Kamov
  
  Well there’s Haslam’s new uniform idea right there. Even has the Steeler’s colors.
  - actovegin1armstrong
    
    I thought you meant the blue dress.
    - Kamov
      
      That only makes sense if Lucy is the Browns and we are Charlie Brownsfan.
bupalos

OMG You guys, we did priddy good.

Just replace the head coach and quarterback, and bingo, winning team.
- NeedsFoodBadly
  
  Hey, at least Richardson played well!
  - dukem1
    
    Trent Richardson?
bupalos

Biggest disappointment today was little. Took 7 off the board early.
- BIKI024
  
  We had our chance and blew it.. ugh, so close. But u gotta love the fight in the team, we hung tough. Yes, weeden was turrible, absolutely turrible, and we were in the game in spite of him.. 7 straight covers for the Clownies, but this one we didn’t backdoor.. baby steps.
BIKI024

LJ Fort makes that pick and it’s most likely over. Ugh. Offense gave no love to the D per usual, but a ATS win is a win..
- ClevelandFrowns
  
  “but a ATS win is a win..”
  
  LOL tell that to your book when he’s collecting your max play on over 4.5.
  - BIKI024
    
    spoken like a true sore loser. you play to cover the game. you play to cover the game. yes, it was heartbreaking that we didn’t take advantage of our opportunity, but we still covered fair and square, by 7.5 to your book, but 8.5 by the rest of the free world. SHIP IT
    - actovegin1armstrong
      
      I remember when Herm Edwards said that, “You play to cover the game!” “You Play to cover the game!”
  - BIKI024
    
    and no way in my wildest dreams did i think this would be one of the wins.. we had our chance and blew it, but i still come away with profit. can’t say the same for many others on this site. can’t remember who all bet on the Brownies, but blunts, bumps and broads on me next time i see you! #CASHMONEY
CleveLandThatILove

Just watched the Skins/Saints highlights and I feel sick. 40 points. He beat Drew Brees in the Superdome in his very first NFL game. NO was 8-0 at home last year, don’t matter that much that stupid Sean Payton wasn’t there. That just magnifies the garbage we sat through today. Pure envy, not a virtue but there it is.
- actovegin1armstrong
  
  CLTIL,
  It was just beginner’s luck. Next week RG3 will throw 4 pick’s and get beaten like a red headed draft pick/step child.
  - CleveLandThatILove
    
    Acto, you are usually correct but remember I got the “funny in the tummy” feeling with Griffin. It’s never wrong.
    - rodofdisaster
      
      I have been saying forever that RG3 is no flash-in-the-pan. He will be good for a long time. Already doing things in the NFL that he never did in college and doing it well.
    - actovegin1armstrong
      
      CLTIL,
      It may be the Tao of Pooh.
      “I’m so rumbly in my tumbly, time for something sweet.”
      Eat a jar of honey and it will go away.
      
      And to be honest, I do like Griffin, well…. as much as I could like a QB, but Mannings and Bradys are few and far between. I did not like giving up every 1st rounder in perpetuity for any QB.
      Especially in a no sense offense the Browns have right now, he would be ready for the glue factory before anyone figured out how to use him.
- Warburton MacKinnon
  
  Colt MCcoy beat the Saints in the Superdome in his second game..what’s your point? Colt would have killed the Eagles today.
  - CleveLandThatILove
    
    The defense, special teams, and coaching beat Brees in 2010. Colt was solid as always that day, but practically a non factor. And we didn’t spend a 1st round pick on him.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      Yet he didn’t throw 3 or was it 4 interceptions today..which Weeden did do,I think and may be wrong here,but Colt only threw 2 facing the Steelers on their home turff. Weeden threw 3or4 at home.
Leftyjsf

Say what you will and mock me if you must…Colt wins that game today. That hurt a lot leaving that stadium today.

Weeden may have a less than one year shelf life.

In Haslam/Banner we trust.
jpftribe

I now live halfway around the world from Cleveland, so I got up at 5am to watch the replay on Gamepass. Didn’t look at the final score first.

First comment is, Weeden looked mental on the sideline before the game. If you have Gamepass, watch the first minute of coverage, The guy seriously looked like he was going to have a nervous breakdown.

Little cost us at least three, maybe 7.

What the hell was Shurmur thinking running the clock out with 1:40 left in the half and eggles having 3 timeouts?

I turned the game off after Weeden’s third INT and looked up the final score. Glad I did. I couldn’t bear watching them throw this game away after the D played so well.

The real question is how long it will take to make Jauron the HC. Certainly no later than game 8.

Meanwhile at the PD, losing by 1 is a great result:
Cleveland Browns Defense nearly pulls off upset
Michael Vick admits he was ‘hanging my head’ before leading Eagles to Victory
Defense offers reason for hope in 2012
Cleveland Browns Defense: Which first or second year player was most impressive?

What friggin game were these people watching? McCoy and a competent HC win this game by two, maybe three touchdowns. And I’m not a big Colt fan.
- BIKI024
  
  you realize philly defense is projected to be one of the tops in the NFL right? and that they are ranked #1 in most power rankings, but no lower than 3, and we almost beat them. we’re at a stage in the development of this young team to have moral victories, and this definitely was. we lost and the offense blows, but our defense showed mad toughness and the offense will come around in time. let’s just hope sooner rather than later. can’t wait for next week.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    hate the word almost..it is and always will be an excuse.The D surprised me,on the other hand our offense was that muxh worse than I thought it would be.
  - ClevelandFrowns
    
    Eagles are ranked 7th in ESPN’s power rankings.
Hopwin

Maybe next time they leave Weeden under the flag.
Cranky M

Hey, remember when they let Vickers walk because he supposedly wasn’t a good enough receiver?
And remember how Owen Marecic can’t actually catch the ball?
And remember when he dropped that pass at the end of the first half when a catch (or running play) causes the Eagles to burn their last timwout, thus probably preventing them from scoring a TD before halftime?
And remember, coincidentally, how our running game turned to garbage when we replaced Vickers with Marecic?

Have i ever mentioned that i really hate Owen Marecic?
- CleveLandThatILove
  
  You should direct your hate where it belongs – at the sham of a front office that threw aside a proven FB who brought it every game and blocked for a RB that delivered. Our ground game was a strength and they refused to acknowledge it.
  - BIKI024
    
    the sham of a front office?? oh CLTIL, if Vickers was so good, why didn’t Houston resign him? he’s a backup on Dallas.. get that weak stuff out of here!
    - CleveLandThatILove
      
      When something is working, why change it? Did the running game thrill you today, cause it didn’t do anything for me.
      - BIKI024
        
        no it wasn’t thrilling, but they did have a few runs, like i said, quite a few 5+ bursts, some for 8 or 9, and the TB one was nice. but yeah, plenty of stuffs, too many. still, they made some plays here and there against one of the best teams in the NFL. let’s see how we do next week. i’m intrigued
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      No player fits all systems..Vickers was and is a throwback player,if you want to run a smashmouth offense he is great…pronlem here is we no longer run that style of game yet we would still be better off with Vickers at fullback.
      - Cranky M
        
        Vickers was a much better receiver than he’s given credit for. I remember him catching quite a few passes while he was here. Certainly more than Marecic ever will.
    - Cranky M
      
      He’s not a backup in Dallas.
      Also, we’ll see how Houston’s running game performs now that Vickers is gone.
- BIKI024
  
  woulda been huge if he caught that ball.. not that it was a great ball.. ugh. it is what it is
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    Can Maricec catch the ball?
    - Hopwin
      
      No.
- thatsfine
  
  Marecic is the most worthless player on the team. He can’t catch, he isn’t fast, he doesn’t block very well, and I don’t see him doing much on special teams. The should put Smelley in there. Isn’t he he only person on the team that caught a TD pass in the preseason?
  - bupalos
    
    Even that little guy that’s Weed’s buddy would be better at fullback(!) than Marecic. They are forcing him at this point. I don’t even feel like he tries.
  - Warburton MacKinnon
    
    More than just Smelly caught a TD…but none are actually playing for us on Sundays
Mevins31

Pat Shurmur is the reason we can’t have nice things
BIKI024

LJ maf’in Fortwas one monumental drop away from being mr. cleveland, wow, that was right in his basket.. but he got one before so you can’t hate on the playa, but wow, the dude can play.. i like our young guys.. they flexed some muscles today.. the offense, that’s obv a work in progres..
- Warburton MacKinnon
  
  Our offense is a work in progress…pardon me let me catch my breath..no Qb we will play,our second string running back outshines our great new hope(ya know the guy we got with the 3rd pick in the first round,that guy we traded up to get), at least today our first round picks look very bad, but yeah props to the D. Though I am willing to bet IF the D wasn’t on the field so long they would have looked even better.
  - BIKI024
    
    i believe trent had 4 runs over 5 yards.. he showed some flash and moved the pile. but yeah, the short distance downs were pathetic and that’s where he makes his living to convert those. but he showed enough to make me still feel confident about his prospects, afterall he hadn’t played in nearly 2 months. but yeah, he plays a bit better and we get the dubya and his poor performance feels much better.
    - Warburton MacKinnon
      
      he had 19 carries for 39 yards,if he had 4 carries over 5 yards that still means he had 15 carries for 19 yards his long was 9 yards,what did you see that I don’t? Granted he had one very good run,and was stuffed on the next play.
      - BIKI024
        
        it is what is
      - Warburton MacKinnon
        
        you mean we suck right?
GrandRapidsRustlers

When you have an 8 hour drive during the game you have a lot of time to think about the natural order of things as a Browns fan.

The opener is pretty much guaranteed to be a soul crushing loss of some sort. I know this because I have seen it. Over and over. My personal favorite was the 9-6 loss to Seattle in 2001. Hell of a game.

It’s the final couple of home games where you get to see the 30-40 point losses.

As for today:

1. It can’t get any worse for Weeden and it sure as hell does not help that a Little drop came at a really bad time. Young QB needs that one.

2. A very good job by the defense today. If you can force 4 turnovers and hold a team under 20 points in the NFL with a competent offense you will win football games…as for the competent offense.

3. You never want to read to much into a Week 1 game but if I am an Eagles fan I am concerned. Vick was flat out awful.

I know it is early but I can’t wait for Sunday. One so that I can watch it in real time and also just to see how Weeden reacts and if they can get some space for Richardson.
- Warburton MacKinnon
  
  I hope you are right,and the hope isn’t misplaced,lol
- BIKI024
  
  give the Clownies some credit, we helped make Vick awful. we clocked him 11 times, and set the tone early on and threw him off his game. he was scurred. that’s a credit to our swarming bee’s! let’s see if we can get to Dalton who has a inferior oline compared to last year. let’s see how they fare against’ raven pass rush
  - Beeej
    
    The D did look great against Vick. They kept him contained. They had him off balance, they put a lot of hits on him, and they were coming at him from every direction. They did, however, look like shit against the running game.
    - ClevelandFrowns
      
      They also gave up 300 yards passing.
bupalos

There are definitely such things as moral victories for this team, and that definitely was one. The horror show at QB is alarming, but when you go back and look at it, if receivers held balls it would have only been pretty bad, and if he hadn’t over amped those two balls it would have been fairly good. I still believe the reason some of those things happen is that the guy just doesn’t have a game head, but maybe time will cure it, who knows. Just play him all year and if it’s still this bad we should be able to pick (yuck) barkley.

Marecic is not an NFL player. He should be cut yesterday. The O-Line is going to take time. They were up against a great D but I’m not sure they opened a single hole all day. I think I saw 1 attempted screen but I’m really not even sure if that’s what that was. I have no idea why screens and wideout screens are not in the mix. Seems like such a no brainer.
- Warburton MacKinnon
  
  I thought we tried 3 screen passes nut only the one to Jackson worked,both TR and our full back literally dropped the ball.
http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML

Hey Shurmie-no-nuts: If there’s anything you can take away from seeing Satan lose tonight (besides sheer jubilation) it’s this: If you are up 5 in the 3rd or 4th after a TD, you go for two. NOT HARD. So many reasons to be angry, can’t even triage my pissiness right now.
https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

having slept on it, the triage of my pissiness starts with the goddamn SIT THE STARTERS IN FOURTH PRACTICE GAME bullshit.

thats two years in a row where the idiocy of that particular conventional wisdom is apparent. i’m going to say that ‘not playing the rookie qb with no td passes in pre-season’ is actually worse than the ‘not playing starters with short preseason, new offense, and 60% new o-line’ policy. worse because generally one learns from mistakes. truly. this is the most effective teacher and theyre valuable lessons because you only get a finite amount. shurmur didnt learn. if you want a silver lining, that’s probably the last time shurmur will sit the starters in the 4th preseason game for the browns.

___
anyone feeling like challenging the premise with a stupid ‘the 4th preseason game didnt cost you yesterday’s game’ reply let me preemptively walk you through it: more practice makes you execute better. if one’s job is a football coach, one should strive to execute as well as possible and one should grab every opportunity to improve. if you want argue this, i will taunt you because i’m in no mood.
- actovegin1armstrong
  
  ” let me preemptively walk you through it: more practice makes you execute better.”
  That makes me think about the John McKay quote about his horrible TBay offense.
  He was asked “Coach, what did you think about your team’s execution?”
  
  McKay snapped back, “I am all in favor of it.”
- bupalos
  
  THIS!
architectartvandelay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntbe_YgPP9M

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