Youth, Culture, and the Browns’ Final 53-man Roster

by Cleveland Frowns on September 4, 2012

Training camp is over, and the Browns’ season-opening 53-man roster for 2012 — Year 3 of the Holmgren/Heckert regime — contains 15 rookies and 12 second-year players, leaving more than half with one year or less of NFL experience. In a rambling column at ESPNCleveland.com that’s otherwise littered with nonsense, legendary Browns beat writer Tony Grossi does make one obvious point on this that’s worth repeating:

Anybody can gut a roster and replace it with rookies and first-year players,” Grossi says. “Really, anybody can do that.”

Which of course is 100% true, and of course, raises another obvious point, which is that an optimal NFL roster is a balanced mix of young, old, and in between. Of course, on an optimal NFL roster, the younger players learn from the older players, the latter carrying more responsibility for maintaining the team’s culture and helping to instill it in the youngsters. Folks commonly attribute the strong veteran core as crucial to the recent success of the Steelers and the Ravens, as an explanation for why it seems so easy for those teams to reload.

Of course, not every franchise will have a veteran core as strong as Baltimore’s or Pittsburgh’s of recent years, but the installation and maintenance of a winning culture can depend on other sources as well; like an experienced ownership group, and/or a good head coach who might himself have experience in another winning NFL culture and who might come in with his own clearly defined core values that he works to instill in his team. In any event, it’s certainly nothing that’s built overnight, and in most cases would depend on some combination of the aforementioned factors.

For instance, if you were starting from scratch, or from way below scratch as would be the case with the Cleveland Browns, it would make sense for a head coach with experience in another winning NFL culture to bring in a group of veterans with similar experience, and/or who embodied the clearly defined core values and core characteristics that the coach is seeking to instill. From there, each annual infusion of youth is integrated with the veterans — who, while they won’t generally be Pro Bowlers if you’re starting from scratch, will at least have some wisdom to impart regarding longevity and winning in the NFL — and they work together to make progress as a unit with the core values as a guide. As this happens, the results should eventually show up on the field, giving the unit experience to grow on.

Like: “Remember when we gave the fans their first win over the Steelers in almost a decade by kicking the shit out of the double-digit favorites in sub-zero weather? And then went on to win the rest of our games by pounding the ball down our opponents’ throats, shattering team rushing records even though they knew we were playing without a quarterback?”

Or: “Remember when we destroyed two double digit favorites in two consecutive weeks, including the defending Super Bowl champs, with a rookie third round quarterback who wasn’t supposed to play that year at all? Remember the things we did to win those games? And how we stayed in pretty much every game that season, also, basically without a quarterback, or even a roster as good as the University of Alabama’s?”

As talent continues to be infused into the roster, these winning experiences multiply, and the young players who were a part of it replace and outdo the veterans who showed them the way, with the best and most talented becoming the team’s leaders, hopefully along the lines of the Steelers and Ravens. In theory, anyway.

But the 2012 Browns? There’s no telling what kind of core values are being instilled, but for winning experiences to build on in the Shurmur Era, we’re stuck with last minute wins against Chaz Whitehurst and Blaine Gabbert so far, with the horizon looking as desolate as ever. And what it all looks like more than anything else is a front office under the gun, with the most incompetent head coach in the NFL, loading up the roster with a bunch of kids because it has no culture and it has no real plan for building one other than to bring in guys who look like the ones who play for the Eagles.

So throw a bunch of kids in the room and see what sticks. At the end of the year, you might not have any winning experience to build on, but at least you’ll have an excuse, as much as it’s an excuse that any team in the NFL could have had.

Anybody can gut a roster and replace it with rookies and first-year players, even the Cleveland Browns, which is where we are now in Year 3 of Holmgren and Heckert.

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The Hey Mary Kay! letter of the week is from Rusty Stoner of Columbus, OH:

Q: Hey, Mary Kay: Can you tell me if either Billy Winn or John Hughes have the type of ability to supplant Phil Taylor as the starter when he’s back? Also, I’ve got the feeling Emmanuel Acho had a disappointing camp. Am I wrong? – Rusty Stoner, Columbus

A: Hey, Rusty: Winn and Hughes have both shown great potential and figure to be part of the rotation, even when Taylor returns. If they play as well as the Browns hope, Taylor can take all the time he needs to recover from the torn pectoral muscle.

Haste makes waste, Phil. Take two years. You are in the presence of great potential.

Which is all for today, but stay tuned for more NFL preview-type stuff all week. Also, especially given the special lightly weighted Week 1 scoring, as well as certain impeccable sportsmanship displayed by certain of the week 1 participants, there’s still plenty of time for you to be a part of the Cheddar Bay Reality Football season. Those already in should look for an introductory email in the next day or so, and hope everyone’s week gets off to a great start either way.

  • BIKI024

    i love the youth on the team, particularly their work ethic. you watch these guys’ pressers (Winn, TRich, Weeden, Mitchell, Gordon, JMJ, Hughes, Wade) and you can’t help but get fired up about the future of the team.

    plus there are several veteran leaders on the team, like All-Pro Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, D’Qwell, Sheldon, Fujita, Parker, etc. Sheldon hasn’t missed a start in like 8 years! he’s a pro through and through, even though his play may be diminishing, his experience brings a lot to the DB room.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Nobody lights up a DB room like you do, Biki.

      • bupalos

        Is the DB room where you play BJ with random peeps?

    • Bryan

      Joe Thomas, DQ, and Mack have spent their entire careers on losing teams with the Browns. Parker is similar. Fujita and Sheldon are the only vets on your list that have experienced winning, and Fujita did so under a completely different system. Brown is the only vet on your list that comes close to matching the idea that Frowns is discussing here.

      Frowns’ point is that a team needs a strong presence of disciplined veterans that buy into the system precisely because they have seen it succeed elsewhere. They can then bring the young players into the fold and preach the wisdom of the system from the bottom up. Yes, the current roster has a smattering of verterans, but none of them are loyal to Shurmur or have experienced winning under Shurmur.

      I do like some of our young pieces, but it has always driven me crazy that Heckert and Holmgren push this idea that you have to “build through the draft” exclusively. This is simply untrue. What you need to do is draft well, and also add veterans that are leaders (see Patriots, New England – Belichick). Its unclear yet if the Browns have done the former (they have a large volume of young players but no one really knows if any of them are good), but we know for sure they haven’t done the latter. I really hope Weeden and T-Rich come out blazing, but realistically I just can’t see this team winning more than 3 games with so little experience at such key positions.

      • BIKI024

        when you have experience on an offensive line, it makes things easier for the inexperience in the other areas. when guys get time to pass, or have holes to run through, makes life a lot easier for people. we’ve invested heavily in this o-line and it’s finally time to reap some dividends off of it.

        i’ve already put max play through my book on Browns over 4.5, but welcome any additional interest from those who want to put their money where their mouth is.

        • Art_Brosef

          Putting your money where your mouth is is admiral, but Im not sure your record betting Cleveland totals is one worth putting any stock in. Arent you 2-2 in your last 4? Batting 500 with max plays isnt exactly profitable.

          • BIKI024

            Not sure what my record has to do with someone putting their money where their mouth is. I’m not claiming to be an expert handicapper, but I do feel there’s value in betting on the Browns since everyone and their grandma thinks they are going to sucks this year, combined with my love for the Clownies, which I profess a lot about on this site, so I’m putting my money where my mouth is. If i lose, at least I get penalized for being wrong.

          • Art_Brosef

            Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.

      • p_forever

        big mike was going on ad nauseam about build through the draft, and exclusively the draft, this morning on 92.3. sigh.

        also, as i wrote “ad nauseam,” is struck me that lots of words related to nausea come to mind when discussing holmgren.

        • bupalos

          But he won’t quit. He’ll never quit. He’s battling.

      • nj0

        “Of the Giants’ 24 starters (including specialists), half were acquired through the draft. Coincidentally, New England has the same number of drafted players starting.”

        http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/How-The-Super-Bowl-Teams-Were-Built/69ce21ec-66b4-461b-8ee7-6401f28fb2ff

        • Bryan

          Do you mean this as evidence in support of the H&H approach or against it? Seems to be against to me.

          • nj0

            Neither nor. Just stating facts. Make of them what you will.

    • Brian Sipe

      Brown and Fujita are JOKES!!!!!!!!!! Brown gets toasted every game and Fujita is an old man here collecting money. He has missed half the games since he has been here and will miss 3 more.
      Who gives a shit is someone is 22 or 25, just win. Stop with the excuses. 3 years ago you and everyone else told me how great this team would be with Holmgren in charge and they will not win more than 5 again this year.

      • BIKI024

        I want to win now Now NOW! There have been few teams in the history of the NFL that was as inept at drafting and FA acquisitions such as the Browns since they came back. We have SIX players on the team who were homegrown when Holmgren took over 2.5 years ago. Why don’t u look at the roster makeup of all the playoff teams and see how many had less than 30 homegrown players. I’ll save u some time, there were ZER0!

        So while it’s been frustrating and sounds cliche, how else do you expect to hit that 30 man minimum without building through the draft??? A lot of people in Berea are high on these kids, so now we’ll see if they step up and take advantage of their opportunity. If they fail it certainly won’t be because they are knucklheads.

        • Bryan

          Key phrase: “a lot of people in Berea are high on these kids.” This is like saying my parents think I am special.

          As noted by Frowns many times, everyone OUTSIDE of Berea believes the team will be terrible this year because it has way too many young guys. Some outside of Berea think the future could be better because of the young guys, but this is far from a consensus.

          • BIKI024

            It will def have growing pains this, year, but i really like the direction the team is heading. I really don’t get how people aren’t excited about the talent we are stockpiling. I really don’t get how you expect to overhaul a roster than was 2nd oldest in league and only had 6 homegrown guys on the roster.

          • Bryan

            How do you know we are stockpiling talent? Of all of the young guys on the team, only 2 have made any impact in the NFL – Thomas and Haden. The rest of the guys are young guys that have been handed playing time because we did not sign any veterans to challenge them.

            IF they pan out, then yes the future is bright. But don’t you think its equally possible that Hagg, Shrine, Wade, Schwartz, Weeden, JMJ, Little, Gordon etc. will struggle and end up as middle-tier talent? Given the lack of vets, we need at least 4-5 of the young guys on each side of the ball to become IMPACT players. That is hard.

          • BIKI024

            I don’t claim to have a crystal ball like you do, i guess i look at sports as entertainment. I have enough other things to be serious about, like my bets for tonight, but when it comes to the Browns, i like to look more at the positives instead of assuming the worst at all times and bitch and moan and bitch and moan about how bad they think the team will be before we even see them play a few regular season games. I expect them to make mistakes for sure, but between Little, TRich, Gordon, Cameron, Benjamin, Schwartz, Weeden on offense, and Winn,Hughes, Sheard, Haden Ward etc on D, we def have more weapons than years passed and I’m looking forward to watching them develop. From their college pedigree to their reviews in camp, to their work ethic and flashes on the field in limited reps, i do feel cautiously optimistic that the talent that has been accrued over the past 4 years will eventually be key contributors to a winning team.

          • Petefranklin

            who you got? Tigers RL? O’s?

  • Beeej

    Is this the long awaited Act 4?

  • dubbythe1

    >>>For instance, if you were starting from scratch, or from way below scratch as would be the case with the Cleveland Browns, it would make sense for a head coach with experience in another winning NFL culture to bring in a group of veterans with similar experience, and/or who embodied the clearly defined core values and core characteristics that the coach is seeking to instill. From there, each annual infusion of youth is integrated with the veterans — who, while they won’t generally be Pro Bowlers if you’re starting from scratch, will at least have some wisdom to impart regarding longevity and winning in the NFL — and they work together to make progress as a unit with the core values as a guide. As this happens, the results should eventually show up on the field, giving the unit experience to grow on.<<<

    This rings so true in the entire Mangini debate. Almost allMangini supporters understood that this was the basic premise of infusing young talent into a disciplined core of veteran players (even ones on the way out). The only precedent we have of Mangini's success with this is the train wreck that is now the NY Jets, with Ryan inheriting a group, riding the wave, and now watching it all fall apart before our eyes (another exemplar is Gruden inheriting Dungy's TB Bucs).

    Mangini opponents like to debate under the assumption that the team was NEVER going to get younger, that the coach would consistently pick up retreads on their way out of the league. Perhaps the only point I will agree with on Mangini-haters is he didnt draft well enough to follow his template to create a winner here, which within argument can be placed on Lerner for his lack of strong ownership and providing a solid general manager.

    Disirregardless, this years team is super young, and without a disciplined, veteran presence will have a difficult time 9 times out of 10 any year, but couple this team with this schedule and we are really looking forward to what Dec 2012 truly holds for our world!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

    Of course there is always the outlier, the Biki Effect, where hopefully hope rides out hope and people flash and fight under a contract year and hope happens and we hopefully see good things, and we surprise even ourselves…. with hope.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      And hard-ons for Trevin Wade press conferences.

    • dubbythe1

      DRINK!

    • Beeej

      “Disirregardless, this years team is super young, and without a disciplined, veteran presence will have a difficult time 9 times out of 10 any year, but couple this team with this schedule and we are really looking forward to what Dec 2012 truly holds for our world!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!”

      I would say 12-21-12 and the end of the world would give us hope. If the world were ending, an undefeated, first round bye, Browns team getting sucked into an abyss along with the rest of the planet would make the most sense.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Beeej,
        Have you been burning the Biki lettuce?

        • Beeej

          Can you think of a better sign that the Apocalypse is upon us than the Browns going undefeated? *liked* for “burning the Biki lettuce.” With Smokin’ Weeden and TRich it will be pass pass give nephew. Pass pass give.
          Granted I’ll probably be updating my stance on undefeated going into Armageddon after week one to 15-1. After week two 14-2…and so on.

  • GrandRapidsRustlers

    I sat in the stands on this cold January afternoon and watched the biggest ass kicking I have ever witnessed by my Browns.

    The final score that day might be the most misleading final score ever.

    They basically lined up and kicked the shit out of the Jags for 4 quarters.

    If you would have old me walking out of the stadium that day that in less than 3 years we would be staring at a 1 or 2 win season…well DRINK.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300103005

  • p_forever

    speaking of youth, and culture, and promises of sporting prowess:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/03/paul-ryans-marathon-time-not-so-fast/

    • bupalos

      You have to admit he’s a bold truth-teller. Really bold. Like, pathologically bold.

      • p_forever

        i admit it, for sure.

  • Cousin_of_Cohen

    Are the lines up for Cheddar Bay Week 2 yet, or do we wait for the open thread?

    • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

      we usually go with the wednesday lines. i pull them from scoresandodds.com. for notification i’ll throw in a post saying the lines are up and provide a link. the pointspreads link is also always available at the bottom of the standings.

      frowns always opens a cheddar thread on thursdays for submittal of picks/essays.

      here’s what the lines look like today. (dont use this for this week’s cheddar.)

      • Cousin_of_Cohen

        Thanks!

        I probably will want to bet on the Wednesday night NFL game, so I’ll wait for Frowns’ post tomorrow

  • bupalos

    My heart isn’t much in the argument given the way things went (Shurmur!?) but I’m still in basic if mild disagreement about the magic of The Process, and the advisability of making yourself the oldest team in the NFL in order to install an instant culture. There is certainly merit to the idea of some veteran stability and some likemindedness, but it still seems to me Mangini’s phalanx of old system guys went a ways beyond that.

    But if you’re a believer, you’re a believer. Belichick disciples are believers. They ABSOLUTELY believe there is a Way, that y follows x and then z falls into place, and they absolutely are going to do it that way. They’ve seen it work. It ties into a a whole moral and ethical framework. It’s just the way things are and they’re doing it that way Period, and it doesn’t matter how many oldsters and coaches sons we put on the roster if it creates The System. There are great virtues to that level of conviction, first and formost probably the consistency and clarity it entails. But I don’t think you can sneeze at the potential drawbacks either.

    It’s possible Bellichick’s spartan system of total control is The Way for everyone. It’s also possible that there are 15 different viable ways to build, and that there are strengths and weaknesses of each way for each situation. It’s possible that absent some incredible assets and leverage upon which to trade , The Process is as much a path schism (J-E-T-S) as it’s opposite. Some blips are blips. And while John Fox and a ton of youngsters is pretty clearly to me the way we should have gone, and that The Process might have been preferable to what’s here now, it’s not impossible that Curly and a cast of thousands might get the job done too.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      That makes sense Bupa,
      As well as being rather poetic.
      I like the visual of the old guard Mangini phalanx, as in
      “Holy Hoplite Batman they are coming at us with the Mangini Phalanx.”

      That would have the entire league Cowhering at their feet.

      I am going to be happy to sing a great Sam Cooke song in the very near future because with all the rookies, the anemic offense in general and Shurmur’s masterful play calling,
      “I Know a Change Gonna Come.”

  • Bryan

    BTW, WFNY has a post on the same issue today and takes a “glass half full” view. I strongly disagree with it, but thought it would be of interest for others to read.

  • McSlain

    I think that being young in itself is not indicative of being good or better. Every other team is also drafting each year, so the build throught the draft mantra is meaningless. Is Marecic better then Vickers? Look at the FA money that was spent, is Frostee Rucker worth the extra money to get him? The Bengals used him on a limited basis. Has Sheldon Brown and Dimitri Patterson improved the play of Joe Haden or TJ Ward? Seems to me that Rod of Disaster has pointed out bad tendencies in Haden’s game in the past and that Ward when not injured also has an incomplete game and is not especially well rounded. Do not bother to point to passing yards from last year, as no one needed to pass on the Browns to win, and when they did pass they seemd to be able to do so without much issue. So in the end, are our coaches traing this young talent?

    • bupalos

      I think the idea that the Browns pass rating was solely the product of their terrible offense and run defense has been pretty well refuted. By yards allowed per attempt they were thoroughly respectable, which is something to brag about for the DB’s considering our LB coverage was and is easily the worst in the history of football or any other sport.

      And Joe Haden isn’t perfect but he is a very good corner and damn good all-around football player.

      • ClevelandFrowns

        “I think the idea that the Browns pass rating was solely the product of their terrible offense and run defense has been pretty well refuted.”

        What? Where? By who?

        “By yards allowed per attempt they were thoroughly respectable…”

        I thought it was irrefutable that when you can’t stop the run or score, teams don’t have to “attempt” to pass the ball. Where has this been refuted?

        • bupalos

          I’m not sure why teams throwing less would lead to lower yards per pass attempt. I’ll accept it’s impossible to refute the “the other team wasn’t trying” conjecture, even though I find it pretty silly, but the fact is when the opposing team did try to pass the Browns D was more effective than the average NFL team last year.

          This is a fact that I find surprising given how easy it was to dunk a ball to a TE over the LBs and get 13 yards.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            When your defense can’t stop the run and your offense can’t score, teams have less incentive to pass against you as a general matter. I’m not sure how this point could be remotely controversial, let alone “silly.”

          • bupalos

            And yet, despite that lowered incentive to attempt to pass, despite the fact that teams attempted to pass less against the browns than almost anyone…WHEN THEY DID attempt to pass, the outcome of those attempts was worse than outcomes against all but 4 other teams. I don’t see how you are confusing GDP with per-capita GDP.

            You can excuse it by the QB quality, that I’ll go with to a significant extent. But if anything I’d bet lowered pass attempts correlates with higher per-attempt yardage, not lower.

            PER ATTEMPT. Am I not typing it loudly enough?

            The “silly” part is suggesting players stop trying against lesser opponents. In the modern NFL there is no way that’s true on a player level. Stats=money.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            Right. PER ATTEMPT. When I care less about passing attempts in general, the individual attempts will tend to be less successful. E.g. I’m only going to throw on obvious passing downs, I’m not going to open my passing playbook to refresh scouts’ memories or otherwise give future opponents any useful tape, I’m going to be less focused on integrating the passing game into my attack in general.

            Still don’t see how this is remotely controversial, Mr. Sunshine.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            What do you even mean by “despite that lowered incentive”? Try “because of.”
            You understand that when the offense has lower incentive that that’s good for the defense, right? Or do we have to back up a few steps?

          • Bryan

            Bup,

            One theory that could explain low yards per attempt is the following: when you can control the game on the ground and you tend to have sizable leads you have less incentive to throw the ball downfield. Why take the risk? Also, you likely have shorter third downs.

          • bupalos

            >>>You understand that when the offense has lower incentive that that’s good for the defense, right?>>>>

            Lower incentive to get yards and points? You’re bonkers. If that’s your argument. it’s silly.

            We can solve this by doing a regression analysis of whether lower pass attempts (which encompasses the offense’s estimation of which path to take) results in lower per-attempt average or not.

            Just go for the bad QB thing. There IS a reason the entire AFC north was in the top 1o for pass defense last year. But it’s not because they were all so bad that the other team quit trying or whatever.

          • ClevelandFrowns

            Lower incentive to PASS the ball. Lower incentive to integrate the PASSING game into the overall attack. When the opponent’s incentive to do those things is lower, it would naturally make the PASS defense numbers look better.

            Pass defense numbers is what you wanted to talk about, right? I feel like I’m in the goddam Twilight Zone here.

          • bupalos

            >>> when you can control the game on the ground and you tend to have sizable leads you have less incentive to throw the ball downfield>>>

            That’s possible. Kind of flies in the face of the fact that a dominating ground game usually is credited with setting up the long pass as Haden cheats the line, but it’s worth considering.

          • bupalos

            And yet, it’s gainsaid by the fact that the Browns also had the 6th best pass completion against pct. as well.

            Just go with the bad QB thing. Honestly, that is about half of the equation. The other half is that the combination of the Browns passrush and DB’s are not at all bad.

          • Bryan

            The 6th best pass completion percentage goes against my theory, which predicts a high completion percentage on safe, short routes.

            Interesting.

          • Beeceeinla

            if you know the game is won, it’s not about gaining huge chunks of yardage, it’s about running out the clock by moving the chains. and as brian suggested a safe 6yd route on 3rd & 7th is stupid, but a safe 6yd route on 3rd & 5 moves the chains and is clearly the way to go.

    • McSlain

      You mean the shutdown pass defense that lost to the Bengals on a school yard play by a backup QB? Yeah, that is pretty awsome Pass D.

  • ChuckKoz

    I spent this weekend talking to a person about the browns. he had no familiarity with them, except that they were generally bad, but added “i see their defense wasn’t that bad last year.” then you go thru the fact that teams were not even trying in the 2nd half and he was like “ahh, that makes sense.” but then i took it a step further and went thru and explained who the current players are and it was frightening to both of us.

    its really sad and scary to think that i am less worried about that offense.

    and I think this year is going to be especially sad if/when RG3 is looking like a better version of cam newton.

    • BIKI024

      RG3 is going to get demolished if he tries to run like Cam did last year. Cam has 40 pounds on a few inches taller so he could take the hits a bit better than lil robert will.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Exactly Biki!
        Watching both of those guys run it is also readily apparent that even though he is larger and he can take a hit and still pick up more yards Newton is also more elusive.
        RG3 looks good occasionally, but those are the highlight films. I saw a lot of plays where he needed to make a move and he was indecisive and/or ineffective. He is too easy to hit. He is certainly fast, but he does not have those natural football moves. He will never be compared to Barry Sanders or Gale Sayers.

    • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

      cant wait to bet ‘at Saints -7′ sunday.

  • jpftribe

    Frowns-
    Agree with your points here. There is no balance in this organization, it is all about rebuilding through the draft, almost exclusively through the draft. No doubt that is critical, but a rookie head coach and no real veteran injections will prove to be a real problem for this team.

    Headlines in San Diego are , gasp, a rookie is starting at LT. Christ, we can say that about 1/3 of the team.

    the only model out there now is the 49er’s. Going by their example, we are about 3 years away from contending and will make another coaching change. And that sounds about right.

  • jpftribe
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-White/100000446546049 Steve White

    Cheez, Frownie, you gotta make me go and agree with Grossi. Yech, I feel like a need a bath…

  • Bandit

    No where is the lack of a veteran leadership more apparent than at QB. The H&H group seem to think the young QB’s are going to learn all by themselves, contrary to almost every succesful team in the NFL. Gee, I wonder why the Browns are at the bottom of every power ranking? More importantly it is going to take years to bring any veteran leadership back to this team.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    cheddar lines up for week 2.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11485578/ched_wk2.pdf

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