Haslam unfurls Banner

by Cleveland Frowns on October 18, 2012

Whatever else about Jimmy Haslam, he’s going to make it a lot harder for people to gripe about politics coming up at websites about Cleveland, Browns and things. On his first full day as Browns owner, the top Republican fundraiser brought VP candidate Paul Ryan to practice along with famous Browns fan and former Secretary of State, Condoleeza Rice, who served under George W. Bush.

Also yesterday, Haslam took out a full page ad in the Plain Dealer in which he promised that his family will be “active participants in the communities of Cleveland and Northeast Ohio,” “not just with the football team.” And this is how he’s going to do it. The political party that’s identified our nation’s most pressing threats as rich people not having enough money, poor people having too much health care, and the President is black, is now the official political party of the Cleveland Browns.

Special salute to Ryan for telling Colt McCoy that he “enjoyed watching [McCoy] play at Oklahoma State,” and especially for blankly asking Haslam if the Browns were “an expansion team.” Next stop on Ryan’s campaign tour, One World Trade Center. “Didn’t there used to be a different building here?”

Of course the other big news in Berea yesterday was the introduction of new Browns President and CEO Joe Banner. Zac Jackson at Fox Sports Ohio points out that we’ve heard it all before here plenty, and of course there’s no losing in a press conference like this, especially after the act that these guys are following. But this from Banner is really great:

“I know these fans have been through a lot of hopeful starts, and I don’t want to sit up here and be the next promiser in their lives,” [Banner] said. “We are just going to have to deliver.

“I know this: No one will work harder or have a clearer direction.”

I don’t want to sit up here and make you any promises, but what I do know is that no one else in the NFL will be more clearly directed than I’ll be. I can’t tell you much, but I can tell you that from here on out this franchise might as well be run by the hand of Providence itself.

Joe Banner, God’s Favorite, continues:

“I don’t imagine anyone else can have more — maybe somebody could tie — have a sense of the appreciation of the history of the fans of this city.”

Promises are just that, but one thing that’s just a fact is that it’s unimaginable that anyone could have more appreciation of Cleveland fan’s history than a rich kid from Boston who parlayed his childhood friendship with another rich kid from Boston into a career in NFL front offices. Maybe somebody could tie, but that’s doubtful.

So all hail our new overlords, again. If anybody gets Cleveland, it’s them, of course. Now about finding the Browns a football coach.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Paul Ryan’s Secret Service detail will steal your soul.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Where is his cabin?

      That will probably get me a BikiBan.

  • rodofdisaster

    Talk is cheap.

  • Shadow_play

    “Didn’t there used to be a different building here?” That my friend is hilarious. I get that Ryan would know very llittle about the Browns, but shouldn’t the VP candidate have someone prep him to not look like an ass. He probably could’ve gotten a quick presser from Condi Rice, no?

    • nj0

      Or at least keep his mouth shut? Then again, this is the guy who can’t remember his own marathon time.

      • Shadow_play

        Yeah, keeping his fool mouth shut would’ve been a good option too. Can’t have a politician admit to not knowing something.

      • Peter

        The biggest most pathetic lie in the history of politics. I ran one. I will nver forget my time or lie about it. Sick

        • nj0

          Absolutely. My runner friends get beside themselves when talking about this. They’re just flabbergasted by it all.

  • ChuckKoz

    not a surprise, but certainly troubling. and i think all the praise of how great his PR machine has been this week should cease immediately (see terry pluto, etc) based on his decision to do something so openly divisive on day one. if the guy wants to get political, fine. but jamming it down our throats on day one is just bullshit.

    • ChuckKoz

      and even if he waited until his new ownership team was settled and the election was over, ever supporting a guy that wants to turn medicare into a coupon program is a shameful thing.

      and the true irony is that this guy will almost certainly seek government subsidies for upgrades to the stadium (in addition to what he gets).

      so to clarify Mr. Haslam’s position:
      1) government should not spend more money on the poor or elderly
      2) government should spend more money on billionaire new shiny toy.

      i really hate these people.

    • bupalos

      I’m surprised. I honestly am. Don’t get me wrong, I know the guy has oil pumping through his veins and will do whatever he can to privatize the gain and socialize the cost, and fully believe that’s what he’s here for. But I did think he had a better sense of optics than showing up with the zombie-eyed granny starver on day 0. At least it boomeranged a bit, but I think this sets the stage.

      • http://twitter.com/edudak Eric Dudak

        It really is amazing how so many otherwise intelligent people fall so easily for the demonization of an entire segment of our society. I am a Republican and proud of it. I no more want my parents to starve or go without medical care than you do. I have kids and wish for them to have a good education and live in a free and prosperous world. I do, however, believe there are better ways to ensure the solvency of an eighty-year old program than by simply raising taxes on a very small segment of society and hoping it will be enough.

  • ChuckKoz

    i will take Oregon -8 and the Seahawks +7 for tonight

    • willy loman

      I will take the 49ers to cover tonight

  • JWMarriott

    forgot that a prerequisite for being the guy who manages the salary cap and negotiates with players’ agents is empathy for the good blue collar folk in cleveland.

    ok, romney, i get it, he wants to be president. but joe banner? the acknowledged salary cap savant? a numbers geek? empathy for clevelanders? what?

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Nobody said anything about prerequisites. Comments revealing remarkable ignorance and/or arrogance are remarkable. That’s all. I understand that it makes you feel uncomfortable. I think that’s a healthy response.

  • nj0

    And he drinks Pepsi?!?! Ugh.

    It’s like Cleveland sports teams are seeing what they can get away with and still have me cheer for them.

    “Oh? Lifelong fan, huh? Born and raised in the 216? Nice… nice… Well, then I’m sure you won’t have a problem if a Pepsi-swilling, Steelers-loving, earthquake-causing cracker from Tennessee owns the team, right? That has to be cool with you, right? You’ll still watch the games? Yeah – thought so.”

    • bupalos

      I resent people making things this true public.

    • DarkwingDork

      I’m a Pepsi-drinking Republican Cleveland Browns fan. I guess the world is strange, eh?

      • nj0

        Laugh it up. Just wait til Haslam sells to George Soros. Dude loves his RC Cola.

        • actovegin1armstrong

          One of the best songs ever:
          “Royal Crown and a Moon Pie”
          by Banana Blender Surprise

    • Petefranklin

      Pepsi is morman owned.

  • Kicktoe2010

    Separation of Football and State! On the FIRST DAY? Come on, man!!! And why Ryan is going out in public with anyone from the Bush administration is beyond me.

    • bupalos

      Because he needs the gravitas of someone who can come somewhat closer to the correct answer of what 2+2 equals that he can.

    • trashycamaro

      They need African-American folk. It”s not like he’s out with Chaney and Chertoff.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Kick,
      It is brilliant political “strateegury”.

      They are not fools.
      “Fool me once shame on you.
      Fool me twice and you don’t get fooled again.”
      George W Bush

  • oxr

    Politics clearly falls into the “things” category, so there’s no reason not to fire away. Thank goodness for the “things” category.

    I do think you’re running down Banner a bit prematurely, however. I would humbly suggest that we need to be patient and give him a reasonable length of time to turn the franchise around, like three weeks or thereabouts. Then we can start ripping on the guy for where he went to school forty years ago.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      Agreed. Hooray for “things.” But if pointing out basic facts about rich kids is too much for you you might be in the wrong place.

      • oxr

        Stipulated! I do think/hope that neither the premise nor the conclusion holds, though.

  • Kicktoe2010

    I hope Mr. Conservative pumps the brakes a bit after the election is over! #wakemeupwhennovemberends

    • bupalos

      I think he’ll pump the brakes right about the time the last drop of oil is extracted from the Utica shale.

      • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

        I drink your $9 Beer. *sluuuuuuuuuuurp* I DRINK IT UP.

        • p_forever

          (i’m betting daniel day lewis will be every bit as good as abe lincoln.)

  • GrandRapidsRustlers

    The most depressing part of these press conferences since they returned in 99 is that they truly have no idea just how low the bar is.

    No one is asking you to win a Super Bowl or even a damn playoff game.

    Relevance. That’s it. We can worry about the other stuff later.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Paul Ryan’s next move – Showing up to spring training and congratulating the Indians for those World Series wins in the 90′s.

  • rodofdisaster

    I’d like to take Cheddar action tonight:

    U of Houston -5
    Seahawks +7

  • Bryan

    Of course MKC is lapping up the PR machine. On Tuesday she was tweeting things like “Haslam’s goal is to win a Superbowl.” Wow. Really? Thanks MKC.

    For anyone who hates Grossi, you should listen to the last ten minutes of Sportsguy’s most recent podcast with Mike Lomardi. They talk Cleveland 95. Sportsguy talks about how, when the Patriots hired Belichick, he was worried because of all of the negative press he received in Cleveland. Lombardi said something to the effect of, “Well, the hateful media coverage in Cleveland was driven by one or two people who decided to dislike Bill. Bill still hates those people to this day. Those people helped ruin what was a good thing in Cleveland because they didn’t understand it.” 100% confident this is Grossi.

    http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/39964/b-s-report-mike-lombardi-3

    • technivore

      Totally had a “driveway moment” listening to that last night as well. Lombardi seemed genuinely emotional about the whole situation and like you I was convinced he was talking about Grossi. Really bummed me out. That said, while we might be able to assign some tiny measure of blame to Grossi for what happened, it still came down to Modell. Grossi could have run MKC-style puff pieces that whole time and it wouldn’t have kept our team.

      Mostly it just made me sad and angry at Grossi for being the primary cause of the toxic, self-hating psychology of Cleveland sports fans.

    • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

      Co-sign on the sentiment that he was referring to Grossi.

      I thought he might have been talking Schwartz with regard to “too much camera time” until he talking about all the homework on Stabby McGee down in Miami. It had to have been Dimitrioff, the groundskeeper. I knew a lot of those guys, and seem to remember a long haired crew member being an egotistical jerk–couldn’t say for sure it was him though.

    • JB100

      In the Akron area, Ed Meyer from the Beacon Journal was a pretty shrill anti-Belichickian.

  • Ess Eh

    can the Browns now wear the brown jerseys for home games?

    • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

      That was the plan for the final five home games from the get-go.

  • CleveLandThatILove

    Bernie is going to be a part of this front office, hopefully. Haslam said on the radio that he texts Kosar quite a bit. Fingers crossed.

    • bupalos

      If he buys Kosar it will probably be to make him ambassador to Youngstown to promote the wonders of natural gas.

      • CleveLandThatILove

        Give Bernie a little credit, Bup. And prepare to be happy where the Browns are concerned, okay? Okay then.

  • bupalos

    Well, trying to leave my specific politics out of it, this doesn’t bode too well for the regime. My concern about Haslam is that the purchase of the Browns has more to do with politics (especially energy politics) than it does with making money through football. What does the guy do on day 0? Turn it into a photo op for Ryan- Romney. Condi, no problem, she is a bona fide Orange and Brown, in addition to not being retarded. Paul Ryan clearly, Clearly, CLEARLY is not a Browns fan at all. WHAT IS HE DOING THERE?

    Day 0 is Haslam’s first use of the Browns to try and influence politics? I thought the guy would at least have the good sense to let the team improve before injecting this crap.

    Way to start off on the right foot there Jimmeh!

    • NeedsFoodBadly

      You did call it. Canny thinking.

    • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

      this is fair.

      if he were bringing in biden and ..geithner.. (pickone) id be like: why are you poking your finger in the eye of me your faithful willing patron?

    • nj0

      Well said. I think this is beyond any one person’s politics. We should all be against an owner using the Browns to promote anu political party. Keep politics out of football!

      • Kamov

        I think it’s ok for individual players to be political. I mean, that’s a lot different, and we’d miss out on ironies like libertarian Tony Pashos complaining that it wasn’t fair he was fired.

        • nj0

          Agree. It’s kind of the “cheer the uniform, not the player” thing. Players can associate with whatever and I won’t care, but lets keep the uniform clean.

        • munasrevenge

          In that sense I think it’s fair for Haslam to be political too; but on his own time. Lord knows there are lots of owners who are GOP fundraisers/donors/speakers. But you can’t usurp a team function as a defacto political photo-op, it’s unseemly.

          I wonder if they washed clean uniforms after?

    • BIKI024

      they had an event at Baldwin Wallace, just a stone’s throw from the Browns facility.

      • mo_by_dick

        Unless Colt is throwing the stone, then it’s several stones’ throws.

  • http://twitter.com/cpmack Chris M

    Hot off the press:

    “The Second Circuit Court of Appeals….conclude[s] that Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act violates equal protection and is therefore unconstitutional.”

    Holy shit, this is a big deal, right?

    http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/b3655b31-d793-4eeb-8c15-128d0ab85115/1/doc/12-2335_complete_opn.pdf#xml=http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/b3655b31-d793-4eeb-8c15-128d0ab85115/1/hilite/

    • bupalos

      I think it’s a foregone conclusion with the marriage equality statutes going on the books that DOMA is headed to the Supreme Court one way or the other in the next couple years.

  • Beeej

    Completely unrelated but has anyone seen “Hot Tub Time Machine?” As soon as they showed the Denver vs. Cleveland show I said to my wife, “Are you f****** kidding me?” After which I had to explain the Drive to her (she’s foreign). She gave me a “poor baby” pat on the shoulder, because after 8 years together she at least understands my sports misery, then the puked on squirrel totally makes the movie top 3 Cleveland related movies ever. Larry Doby, Ol’ Satch, Puked on Squirrel, then maybe maaaybe Jim Thome for Cleveland statues.

    • http://www.autismspeaks.org/ PML

      I suppressed that movie from my memory for both that reason and that John Cusack was involved in it. Holy hell – you made Better Off Dead and now you’re doing movies like that?

      Those asian furners with their lack of football knowledge. My uncle is planning on flying in from Southern CA for the Browns/Chargers game. He spent the first portion of his time in the States in Cle (about 12 years) and we went to Browns’ games all the time growing up. He told me he’s going to wear Chargers’ gear for the game. Why? Because “they’re doing better right now”. It took 3 of my cousins to pry my hands off his neck.

    • NeedsFoodBadly

      Same thing. Saw it in the theater and freaked out, then had to explain it to my non-sports watching girlfriend. Great moment.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Thank you,
      I have to see that movie.
      “Hot Tub Time Machine”?
      Is it porn?

      • Beeej

        I would put it at a C+ comedy. No porn, but they do pay tribute to some of the great comedies of the 80s with a couple of gratuitous boob shots.

  • actovegin1armstrong

    “The political party that’s identified our nation’s most pressing threats as rich people not having enough money, poor people having too much health care, and the President is black, is now the official political party of the Cleveland Browns.”

    Beautiful stuff Frownie!
    Poetic, succinct, and surprisingly all too true.

    ****Cheddar Alert****

    The Seachickens +7
    U of Hou -5

    Only edited to Adverberize appropiately.

    • mo_by_dick

      #ADVERBERIZE

    • ClevelandFrowns

      I stole that line from one of my friends from salt mining school who posted it on facebook. You’re welcome.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Frownie, Have you accumulated a lot of Northwestern School of Mines gear?
        I love those colors!
        I like UT Orange, but my Rice Blue and Gray sucked.
        I saved a Rice race shirt that is wonderfully resplendent in pink, (my favorite color), but other than that shirt it was all boring.
        Did Under Armor add the stripes?
        I like the Purple and White better without the stripes.

  • WestPalm27

    I am sure once you get past political affiliations you will love Haslam and Co. Surely you people will rabidly defend him as much as the current White House occupant. After all, Mr. Haslam is “inheriting a big mess”. It will take him “some time” to turn it around. The only difference is that Haslam won’t “blame Lerner” and certainly won’t ask the Steelers and Ravens to “level the playing field” so the Browns get “a fair shake.”

    • actovegin1armstrong

      WestP,
      Alright I will try, but do not call me Shirley!

      • Petefranklin

        Roger, Roger.

        • 910Derp

          Over, Unger.

    • ClevelandFrowns

      A deeply held delusion that the rules of life and politics are as simple and apply as equally among participants as the rules of the game of football do is a necessary requirement for many folks who’ll vote Republican this November. It’s good for you to air this stuff out.

      • DarkwingDork

        Much as the deeply held delusion that spreading the wealth a little will make the unmotivated folks who don’t want to work for a living suddenly become prime contributors to the economy is a necessary requirement for people who will vote Democrat this November, eh Frownie?

        40 plus years of Democrats running the show in Cleveland and nothing but shrinking populations, bankruptcy and factories shutting down to show for it. But hey, don’t let me spoil your delusions. Law of averages says things have to turn around eventually, you just keep propping up that donkey!

      • Beeej

        Call me crazy but I thought you were a W guy back in the days of the Chiefsource? Maybe it was Nuge? Definitely Nuge, but I thought you too.

    • nj0

      “you people”?

      • Kamov

        Don’t be so sensitive. Being sensitive is for LIBERALS.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        njo,
        Not just “you people”, the racist anthem, but “Shirley you people”.
        That must be some kind of world record.

    • p_forever

      ohhh i get it. you really do live in west palm! okay well welcome to cleveland. the 47% live here.

      • WestPalm27

        Thank you for “welcoming” me to Cleveland. Yes I do live in West Palm Beach, as evidenced by my disqus name. I just figured that “25 year resident of Cleveland who loves the city, sports teams, family and friends that reside there but moved away for the land of sunshine and better opportunities” wasnt as catchy of a name. So again, thank you for your welcome.

        I have a much more important question for you though. Are we going to beat the Colts this Sunday?

        • actovegin1armstrong

          West,
          Thank you for bringing it back to our Beloved Browns.
          I may disagree with you on everything from politics to Polyethylene bags, but we share a common misery.
          So we are kindred sporting spirits.
          Welcome aboard the Brown and Orange Titanic!

          • nj0

            stupid polyethylene…

            unite in love for backup qbs and the next owners

          • reggiebuckeye

            And this is why I keep coming back. It doesn’t matter where we are from or what we believe (most of the time), we all get along because we are all on board the Titanic that is the Cleveland Browns.

            I’m just feeling the love, unity, and other wonderful vibes that is Frownies Place.

        • p_forever

          i don’t know – i picked the brownies and they came through for me last weekend – not sure i should tempt fate and pick them again this week, especially because i have a feeling luck will be looking to make up for his lackluster performance, and that he’s annoyed in general about all the talk of rgIII being the better qb. (i actually do think rgIII is better, and super wanted cleveland to do whatever was necessary to get him in the draft; but regardless, luck is an uber competitor and i think the rgIII comparisons might have him riled up.)

          • actovegin1armstrong

            p_4,
            In every other regard you never cease to impress me, but this RG3 thing….

            Is it the Superman socks? I did love the Superman Socks.
            He also; as far as I have seen, has a rare and terrific ability to think before he speaks.
            That is wonderful, but he is an undersized, fragile, QB.
            (No, that is not Italian for fast. Frah-gee-lee)

            I also expect him to have a great game this week, I almost made Washington one of my Cheddar Picks.

            Why are you still lamenting the loss of a scrawny little QB?

            You act like he is a shut-down Cover Corner, or a super quick, freak of nature DE.

          • p_forever

            Honestly, it’s the track star part that sold me on him. You can understand that, right? Long sprinters are the best.

          • Believelander

            He’s the same size as Brett Favre? He has no significant history of injury to suggest he’s fragile?

          • actovegin1armstrong

            You win, I am impressed again.
            Your amazing talent for suck-upedness must serve you well in the salt mines.
            Congratulations!

          • p_forever

            Lolol. You have no idea. This hangs the wall of my decidedly non-corner office:

            Hahaha http://www.theonion.com/articles/ceo-barbie-criticized-for-promoting-unrealistic-ca,1787/

          • p_forever

            Hahaha super Barbie conference fun tables are the best.

          • actovegin1armstrong

            Disqus is tricking me again.

            I can not reply to the correct post, but I love the CEO Barbie article.
            I former paramour of mine was the first CEO at a…. ya da ya da ya da.
            (I feel very remiss that I do not remember the details.)

            Do you just put on a pink dress and go out as Barbie on Halloween?

            I frequently fall back on my natural costume.
            I wear my normal suit, tie and dorky glasses.
            I loosen my tie, unbutton my shirt 3 buttons and I wear a Superman t-shirt underneath.
            I really do look like Clark Kent, so it always gets laughs.

    • BigDigg

      Luckily for Haslam he has the ability to change both front-office and back-office personnel as he sees fit. So his win record (after a certain period) is completely reflective of his ownership and leadership.

      Now if he had a feuding coach and GM employed directly by the fans…

  • http://twitter.com/nmesha Nick

    For what it’s worth, Dee Haslem sounds awesome.
    http://www.cleveland.com/news/index.ssf/2012/10/wife_of_new_cleveland_browns_o.html#incart_hbx

    I’ll take Oregon tonight in Cheddar.

    • actovegin1armstrong

      Jimmy who?

      Forget that guy, I am “all in” for Dee Haslem.
      She needs to take over the Browns and let Jimmy suck up to the “politicos” for his Fracking tax breaks.

  • nj0

    I wonder if Condi will get involved with the team somehow. She once said that being NFL commissioner would be here dream job.

  • The Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs

    Don’t get too political here Frownie…

    Having someone as powerful as Condoleeza Rice on our side can only be a good thing!

    Here’s my campaign slogan: “HERE WE GO BROWNIES, HERE WE GO!”

    • Alexb

      yes her we’re ok with cause she has even hinted in the past at wanting to be part of the Browns front office and even considered taking a run at NFL commish. I thought she left politics behind though, disappointed to see her out there stumping for Romney/Ryan…she’s better than that. She must have a few dates still left on the contract before they’ll let her out of the non compete clause. She is a bonafide Browns backer so her being out there i have zero issue with EVEN THOUGH i couldn’t stand the entire Bush administration and thought she blew it out her ass the whole time she was there.

  • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

    Haslam has managed to co-exist in Rooney’s Obama-friendly camp for a few years now. I’m sure that he’ll do just fine with the community in Cleveland.

    As far as being born with silver spoon in your mouth, how is that different than being born into the world with the McDaniels or Harbaugh surname on your birth certificate?

    • Kamov

      Or Shurmur?

      • http://twitter.com/JRichTCF Jeff Rich

        All of the Bob LaMonte clients’ names were implied.

  • http://www.redright88.com/ Tom_RedRight88

    At least Banner didn’t promise that he has a five-point plan to save the Browns and then refuse to name even one of those points.

    As for all the talk about curses and what ails this team, maybe Grossi is the problem. He’s been covering the Browns for almost 30 years (which in itself is a story) and the Browns have won squat during that time. Maybe he’s the curse that ails Brownstown?

    • Petefranklin

      If you connect the five cemetaries that surround the OU School of Journalism with straight lines they draw a pentagram. Coincidence? Hardly.

  • p_forever

    of course i’m fairly confident that 99% of the owners of NFL teams* share haslem’s political views, it does take a certain kind of – to put it really really nicely – “brashness” to pull this on day one.

    *also worth noting is that paul ryan is himself part owner of an NFL team – the green bay packers. “i love to get together with my fellow NFL team owners” [real live statement made by paul ryan] would be a perfect twitter bio, right? if ryan doesn’t use it, jimmy really should.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/paul-ryan-retreats-to-nyc-for-money/

  • Defenestration

    The fact that the guy doesn’t know McCoy from Weeden doesn’t bother me one bit and I won’t pile on him for it (why he was there I don’t get at all, though). But there is something worth noting in the event that really drives in the ‘this guy is an F-ing slimeball’ feel. The guy didn’t even politician his way into it by saying something like “I was impressed by your career at Oklahoma State.” He said that he “enjoyed watching” him play there. The man doesn’t appear to me to have any problems with saying something completely untrue in a calculated attempt to seem relevant or be liked. If anyone has a single piece of evidence of how “career politicians” are a good thing for this country, please share.

    • rodofdisaster

      If he “really enjoyed” watching anyone play at any university, you’d think he’d know what they looked like. Some call it a “gaffe”. I call it an outright lie.

      • Defenestration

        Bingo.

      • actovegin1armstrong

        Rod’o,
        Before election day you should do an
        “X’s and O’s of Our Political Foes.”

        I think what Rod thinks.

      • http://twitter.com/r_vernon Richmond Vernon

        Lol youve never discussed football with someone who got their players mixed up? I’m not voting for Romney/Ryan but you guys are legitimately cracking me up. This website is the most amusingly cynical/negative corner of the internet I’ve ever been to.

        • Defenestration

          You should look into exploring more corners of the internet if that’s the case. The ol’ world wide web isn’t a square. It has close to a googol corners last time I checked.

        • rodofdisaster

          “Cynical” and “negative” are relative. Saying you watched a ton of Colt McCoy/Brandon Weeden and not being able to keep them straight (at a minimum) proves you didn’t do your homework and it’s hard to vote someone into elected office who doesn’t.

          I’ve been around enough politicians to know they’ve constantly got someone in their ear prepping them. Failure of that mechanism is the best case scenario here.

          There are certainly more websites for you to check out or is this the end of the rainbow?

  • mo_by_dick

    Free Headline: Under the Banner of Trevin (Wade)

  • GrandRapidsRustlers

    Changing Week 8 Pick to an Essay Pick

    49ers (-7) over Seahawks

    I have spent all day looking at this line like it is some kind of mistake. We have an angry SF team coming off an embarrassing loss playing a young (but talented) Seattle team with a rookie QB under the lights in front of a national audience and it’s just a TD?

    Different story if this Seattle team is playing at home in front of the 12th man and scab refs but that is not the case tonight.

    The real story tonight in SF:

    Alex Smith 73.4
    Russell Wilson 43.8

    I still have no clue what the hell QBR even means (nor does anyone else) but what the hell…roll with it. 49ers big tonight.

    • Beeej

      Frowns’ QBR on this post is a 48 and 9/16. If Tony Grossi wrote it, his QBR would be a 32 and 1/3. Make sense?

      • GrandRapidsRustlers

        Grossi is Paul Ryan?

        Now I am bewildered. My head hurts.

        • Beeej

          You’re going to have to trust me on this. I measured it myself based on measurements used to measure stuff. I also included an important-sounding word metric that weighs the effectiveness of the word in relation to where it is in the post. It’s all very complicated, but believe me it is far and away the best way to measure the writer of an article based on the topic and which writer could write about the same topic better.

          Now do you get it?

          p.s. It is the best.

          • GrandRapidsRustlers

            Reads your comment…

            Scans to picture above…

            Does not see Haslam wearing Browns pin…

            Jimmy Hates Cleveland…

            Is this how Grossi does it?

      • oxr

        If I followed Believelander and Defenestration’s posts correctly then Grossi’s QBR is lower because writing this would not, at this stage of the game, contribute in any significant way towards him winning.

        • Beeej

          Exactly. Frowns had a bunch of clutch sentences in the last couple of paragraphs.

        • Believelander

          Dead on sir.

  • BIKI024

    CHEDDAR PLAY:
    Seattle +8. luca brasi sleeps with the fishes once again. F the Niners and Harbaugh. 2 bad losses in a row for Alex Smith against that swarmy Hawks D.

    • Petefranklin

      The line was 7 so you get a push. I guess the lines saved me from a cheddar play on Houston -5 as I bet it at -4 and dont want to give up points anymore in this contest. Too bad we dont have totals on the national games, under 38 was a pretty solid play.

      • BIKI024

        twas a push in cheddar, but not in the real world..

        • Petefranklin

          Earlybirds got a win with SF.

        • actovegin1armstrong

          Biki please….
          You are one of us.
          The “real world” is something that we may notice occasionally, but we choose not to live there.

  • Dennis Hemingway

    Please put me down for the Niners -7 tonight over the Seapuppies as play #1 for this week.

    I’m not sure if making a play tonight on the Sun Devils to upset the Ducks is big balls or idiotic. Therefore I’m laying off this game and the points.

  • Alexb

    what a disgrace to impose a presidential candidate on a football team. Is not even football sacred anymore to these assholes? Haslem can suck my dick for subjecting the Browns players to have to sit and listen to that phagocyte Ryan mistake their QB’s. Awful doesn’t do this justice. If I was a player I would have hit the pads. Your responsability as a player begins and ends with your production on the field and a modicum of behavior off the field so as not to embarrass the orgainzation….and THAT”S IT!! You are not obligated to sit and listen to the political rhetoric of a political candidate that your owner is shilling for. I would have spit on the ground and walked.

    • BIKI024

      oh please, it’s a free country where there are no bounds to campaigning. the players can chose to listen or not, for pete’s sake. it surely isn’t worse than Obama goin on the Michael Yo radio show and debating the beef between Nicki and Mariah. child please

      • actovegin1armstrong

        ****Attention Frownie Community****
        We may need an intervention!
        I am worried about Biki, first he falls into the delusion that we are in the “real world”, then he says that this is a “free country”.

        Biki is a very smart guy, but the fast lane life style of “The City” has gotten to him.
        He needs a tailgate, a heartbreaking loss, copious amounts of alcohol and a couple of dozen pounds of pork fat.

      • Believelander

        This just in: there are actually bounds to campaigning.

        • BIKI024

          child please

  • Cousin_of_Cohen

    Cheddar play for HurriKain Colter:
    Seahawks +7

    Eagerly awaiting the all play to post the rest of the lines, you guys.

  • BIKI024

    Cheddar Play:

    ASU +8

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki
    • Kamov

      I don’t know what this is or what it is referencing or even if something is being referenced, but I like it.

    • Petefranklin

      I really wish the Buckeyes weren’t too scared to play in Athens. In Hoops and the gridiron at least.

  • oxr

    College Thursday Cheddar Bay pick: Ducks -8 over Sun Devils. I type this with my heart in my mouth, since every time I’ve picked the Ducks they’ve failed to cover…

  • bupalos

    With a need to get the essay out of my hands* and perhaps to spread out my cheddar pain, 49ers -7 for the big cheese biscuit.

    There are tons of motivation factor lines that all point towards SF. But as an early and frequent dissenter from the idea that NFL football results are driven by these kind of factors, I won’t even cite them. The operative function here is that this will be the best defense yet faced by the Sea Chicken’s rookie QB. By far. He can’t fall back on the run, and this is legitimately the best pass defense in the NFL. I’m not looking for Weeden V. Philadelphia numbers, but I don’t see why it should be too far from that. Life is all about expectations versus actuality, and I think Mr. Wilson is about to have his eye-level changed.

    *afraid to even look but I suspect the Browns will be a pick em this week, and thus I can’t afford to have the essay still sitting in my hands come Sunday for practical and moral reasons.

  • https://twitter.com/jimkanicki jimkanicki

    im hopping on azst tonite.

  • Deputy Glitters

    So Harbaugh declines a penalty that would have given the 49ers a safety and pushed it to a 9 point victory to end the game. Sucks for whoever picked SF.

  • Capitalgg

    Heading to visit family in Indianapolis this weekend (and take in a football game), so Cheddar Bay plays have to go in early. I’d like to thank the Executive Committee for not making me pick this week’s Browns game. Though Ravens-Texans with the injury factor had some fascinating potential.

    Week 8:

    [all-play] Steelers -1.5 v. Bengals
    1) Oregon -8 @ Arizona St. (WIN!)
    2) Cincinnati -6.5 @ Toledo
    3) Troy -7 v. FIU
    4) Titans +3 @ Bills

    So if you’ve been following my picks this year, my other plays have been much more profitable than my cheddar plays. I don’t know why, but it’s nice to look at my balance and see +30 units and a 64% CFB winning percentage. Can’t explain it, not going to bother trying. Just gonna keep grinding.

    This week’s money play will be Stanford -2.5 @ Cal. Stanford is a team I love to play. They seem to be chronically shorted in Vegas. Cal is not a good team. I’ve played against them several times this year to great success. Stanford is legit good. They took a very good Notre Dame team to OT last week. Stanford is better coached and has better players. The only things Cal has going for them is the game is at home (mild advantage), Stanford just played across the country in a emotional loss (desire to win trumps cross-country travel), it’s a rivalry game (best reason for close line). But I keep coming back to Stanford having better players and coaches, so I’ll give the points.

    [other plays]
    Wake +3.5 @ Virginia
    Rutgers -5.5 @ Temple
    Northwestern +6.5 v. Nebraska
    Ball St. -3 @ Central Michigan
    Kent St. -4 v. Western Michigan
    Oklahoma -35 v. Kansas
    Penn St. +3 @ Iowa
    Panthers +2 v. Dallas
    Oakland -4 v. Jaguars
    Lions +6 @ Chicago

  • actovegin1armstrong

    Cheddar 8
    Uni of N Tx win
    Seachickens Push, or win, it depends on how well Biki argues
    Houston Cougars
    Bowling Green -17.5
    LSU -3.5

    All Play and Essay
    ****Bungles +1.5****
    The Steelers are an aging group of Chumps.
    They have injured running backs that probably will not play, most importantly Mendenhall and their less than stellar offensive line is not fully healthy as well. This will force Ben Ruthlessraper to float and flutter short passes to his receivers like a father playing his first game of “catch” with his son/daughter, or like the West Coast Offense, (pretty much the same thing). The speed of Ben Wallace shall be wasted with Ben Rottenraper doing his “Statue of Libery” imitation and instead of handing off on a reverse, he will be getting beaten up by the very underrated Bungles defensive line. Big Ugly Ben will get roughed up in this game.
    If Andy Dalton Gang can manage to stay on his feet and get the ball down-field to the very talented AJ Green a couple of times this should be a season changing win for the Beagles and a season crippling loss for the Steelers.
    The Bungles shall also be very motivated to redeem themselves after last week’s embarrassing loss to the worst team in the NFL.
    I really wish there was a way for both teams to lose.

  • http://twitter.com/r_vernon Richmond Vernon

    For what its worth, anyone who votes for either of the two candidates thinking any net positive will be come as a result of their victory is absolutely bonkers.

    Goldman Sachs 2012!

    • Defenestration

      As I stated above

      “If anyone has a single piece of evidence of how “career politicians” are a good thing for this country, please share.”
      That said, technically a net positive would be anything better than the other candidate would offer. A negative minus a larger negative is positive as far as nets are concerned.

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