Tribetown lives for October

by Cleveland Frowns on October 3, 2013

It didn’t feel like the playoffs.” – Brian McCann

Tribetown

With the Cleveland Indians’ inevitable playoff collapse complete (could have been worse!), we may now soberly appreciate just what a cynical cash grab the MLB’s one-game Wild Card “Coin Flip Game” is. Of course, 150+ years of baseball history has taught us nothing if not that “a single game between two playoff-caliber teams is essentially meaningless in determining the relative quality of those teams.” But two more “playoff” teams each season means that a few more ballparks like Progressive Field can be filled to 30% capacity instead of 10% capacity in any given September, and a couple more of Bud Selig’s clients can sell their fan bases on the deep meaning of October baseball. At least for a few extra days.

playoff priorities

Get your tickets while you can. You wouldn’t want to miss anything really great.

Imagine if there was a Tribetown that really did live for October? What a depressing hellhole that place would be. Imagine if the local MLB franchise’s marketing department could do better than flag-waving declarations about how everyone in town is supposed to be living for something that the franchise can hardly deliver. Baseball season is over in Cleveland. What exactly is Tribetown supposed to be living for now?

Next year, of course! There will always be that. Here’s hoping the Indians get to play one-third of their schedule every year against three teams as godawfully horrendous as the 2013 White Sox (99 losses, 18 of them to the Indians), Twins (96 losses, 13 to Cleve), and Astros (111 and 6). This season the Tribe was 55-62 against everyone else, so we might at least find some solace in the probability that the right team won last night’s coin flip.

But even if next year’s schedule is just as weak, the front office still has plenty of work to do to maintain Cleveland’s status as a coin flip contender. Two-fifths of the starting rotation will be lost to free agency, the bullpen will have to be completely reconstructed, the lineup lacks a legitimate All-Star bat as ever, Nick Swisher and Michael Bourn – overbought free agents who capped respective underwhelming seasons with respective 0-for-4’s last night — won’t be getting any younger or cheaper, and MLB’s tilted economic playing field will still let teams like this year’s top World Series contender, the Dodgers, spend more than three times what the Indians do on baseball players. When signings like Swisher and Bourn don’t work out, it will still hurt the Indians three times as much. Even the very best front office and coaching staff could only do so much under these circumstances, even apart from Wahoo’s Curse.

On the bright side of all this, though, at least Hitler’s favorite baseball team won’t be mucking up any more of this year’s playoffs with things like grown-ass men wearing redface in public and the most popular badge of obliviousness to illegitimate privilege known to man. Tribetown lives to mock the genocide of America’s indigenous people while the planet burns. And the most righteous curse in the history of sport lives on and on and on. 49 years and counting. They’re still shitty.

And it’s still October in Tribetown, for 28 more days. Browns v. Bills tonight, and the puck drops on a new season of Lake Erie Monsters hockey tomorrow.

  • Bryan

    This post should have a sad trombone sound play at the end.
    http://m.sadtrombone.com/

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      John Adams drum.

  • Dave Kolonich

    Could there be some corollary between the Curse of Chief Wahoo and Brian Hoyer trying to slide and probably wrecking his knee?

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      How could there not be?

  • DD3

    Congratulations, Frowns. You made it 7/8ths of the way through an article on the Indians without referring to Chief Wahoo.

  • NeedsFoodBadly

    Aside from Hoyer, that’s one of the most fun Browns games I’ve ever watched. Gutsy play across the board.

    Not gonna lie, not a fan of Banner or Haslam, but seeing them get excited in the box at the end of the game was a good look for ‘em.

    • bupalos

      What’s great is that the Cleveland Browns are now apparently an NFL team that can play far from their best game and still beat a (mostly) NFL team. But if Hoyer has no ligaments, that will drain about 3/4 of the excitement out of this thing for me. Weeden got a couple deep 3’s to drop, but I don’t have much interest in going back to that look. Poor Lombardi looked like someone shot his dog, which is pretty much exactly what happened.

      D-Line sure looked a little undisciplined tonight, I’m afraid that might have ended differently if EJ Manuel had stayed in or been replaced by anyone better than Charley Manuel. But that place rocking it up was a sight for sore eyes regardless.

      • NeedsFoodBadly

        Seeing the Browns able to punch back after giving up TDs is a new thing. Like you say, it’s what a real football team is capable of.

        If Hoyer misses significant time, yeah it’s gonna suck. Weeden did just enough tonight to manage the game, but he still looks pretty excruciating out there.

        Some of the sloppiness is probably due to it being a Thursday night game too.

        EDIT: Also, on the Bills side of things, how good did that Alonso kid look? He could be a scary player going forward.

        • nj0

          Agree on Alonso. I’m not very attentive to those sorts of things and even I kept noticing him. It was like he was playing with cheat codes. And to a lesser extent, I think Mingo looks the same (though he doesn’t always seem to know where to go).

          • vespo09

            Definitely. Noticed Mingo a lot last night. Many good plays, and one really bad one – when he lost the edge on Spiller’s TD.

          • nj0

            Last night was the type of game I hoped from Mingo in his rookie year. Freakish talent that’s still learning.

      • Bryan

        Weeden’s decision-making is soooooo slooooow. Its like night and day watching he and Hoyer. As you said, he hit on a few big plays, but his style of play is not sustainable against a good D.

        • Steve White

          Yup. Several times I’m watching and saying, “Throw. The. Ball. Already.” Even the good passes were (almost always) late in arriving.

          I’m pleased as all get out that they won, but if Weeds is the QB for the rest of the year then I’ve got to go back to my previous prediction of 5-11.

          • jpftribe

            Agreed. Hoyer, 9-7, Weeden 5-11, if he has a good year, 6-10, and only because we play Pittsburgh at home and Jax.

      • alexb

        you thought the d-line looked undisciplined? why? with the exception of mingo allowing himself to get pinched inside when the call was for the safeties to come down the pipe…that d-line is the only reason that game didn’t get away from us in the 2nd quarter. Any other year the browns fold after losing the starting qb.

        • bupalos

          Maybe just by comparison, because they’ve been great in preceding weeks at creating a very structured rush that corals the qb. There were at least 3 plays (including the one he got injured on) where they flushed him and he ended up in a more advantageous position than in the pocket. He’s not the kind of guy you just want to shoot people at.

      • jpftribe

        The problem with losing Hoyer is you now see how bad Weeden really is. Lets face it, Hoyer is a third string journeyman, undrafted FA who did not win in college. Yes, he studied under Brady and looked really good, and decisive in the Norv Turner offense.

        But more importantly, Weeden is really, really bad. His inability to read a defense and make decisions have been fairly evident, but now even hand offs and play action are clearly deficient. He has zero touch on screen passes, cannot find the outlet back and burns timeouts because he cannot manage the play calling. Lets not forget touch passes to the corner of the end zone, he’s gone from not completing them to not attempting them.

        • Steve White

          Don’t forget also that he doesn’t do his part on handoffs to set up play-action later. You always know when he’s handing off and when he’s dropping back for a sack. Brady and Rodgers always complete their fakes on a handoff.

          For all the comments on Tuel locking in on a receiver (he’s an undrafted rookie, of course he does), Weeds did exactly the same thing time and again. He wasn’t picked I suspect only because the Bills secondary was depleted.

          • acto

            Steve, you are correct, it is a very valuable, but mostly lost art. I was certainly never a Boomer Esiason fan, but he went from a below average NFL QB, to one of the better QB’s of his era because he was a master at the “ball fake” on play action.
            Who could the Browns get to “coach up” that lost art?

        • cranky m

          Hoyer makes those passes to Cameron in the endzone look so easy. Weeden makes them seem impossible.

  • Beeej

    1. Much better than a 6-3 final score.
    2. Out of shape McGahee sees the field way better than TRich
    3. The offense looks completely different with Hoyer than with Weeden. 4. I think we got lucky with Emanual’s injury.
    5. Holy Shit we won!!! Three in a row!!!
    6. *%&&ing Wahoo.
    7. Even with injuries, the defense still looks tough. Barky!!!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kbBmlAvdI PML

      Hopefully it’s just a sprain for Hoyer. Thanks for the link, btw. That book is incredible.

      WOOF! WOOF!

      • Beeej

        No worries. As soon as I saw it I figured it would be a good pick up for you. As a father of 3 children and 1 angel, I can sympathize with difficult parenting situations. Plus, Asians (I have honorary status) have to stick together.

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      8. There was no way we were going to lose on Jim Brown day.

  • Petefranklin

    What a surprise, after Hoyer went down I thought we were dead. The fans shouldn’t have booed Weeden on his first series, he kind of needs some confidence. Night and day between Hoyer and his backup though!. As Jim Brown said KEEP ON ZINGING!!!!!

  • Ron

    How in the hell did Weeden get that Hoyer voodoo doll past security?

  • nj0

    So if Hoyer is done, do you go get Freeman?

    • bupalos

      Word is in. Hoyer is done with an ACL, which at least means he should be back in time for training camp. Freeman is better than Weeds, but I can’t say I want them to pull that trigger. Kind of feels like that would just complicate things.

      Right now it looks pretty clear — Draft someone, probably with one of the 1st round picks, and go into camp with Hoyer as the presumed starter.

      • nj0

        Ugh. Why can’t we have nice things?

        • jpftribe

          No fucking doubt. I cannot stand the thought of Weeden repeatedly taking 5 seconds to make a decision then holding press conferences of how he is putting it all behind him to concentrate on the next debacle.

      • nj0
        • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

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      • NeedsFoodBadly

        I agree with this.

        I’d maybe take Freeman on a one year deal. Maybe. But a multi-year contract would be totally missing the point.

      • AnonymousBrownsFan

        Fuck

      • Steve White

        I argued three weeks ago that if it’s between Weeds and Tebow, Tebow is the better choice. Nothing I saw last night changes my mind.

        • acto

          Tebow?? Good call, he could help replace TRich. The only place he may fit could be Tailback of Fullback, although I would prefer a tailback who could throw the option if necessary. Unfortunately Tebow cannot throw, but you cannot have everything.

    • acto

      yes

  • Siper Bowl

    The minute I saw those guys in painted face I knew 100% Frownie would jump on that… They should probably not allow that in the stadium. Of course that would put them one step closer to knowing they need to dump Chief Wahoo and they do not want to of course.

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      That the official Indians account tweeted out the “no red shirt, no problem” photo is just mind blowing.

      • Shadow_play

        Wow. I didn’t even see that it came straight from the Organization. Ugh.

      • bupalos

        That is disappointing for those of us smiley enough to hope for a phase out.

        I’m going to write them on that one.

      • p_forever

        honestly? it’s almost actionable, right?

        • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

          Hold the almost. Public nuisance, IIED, and felonious assault. Also a hate crime.

          • p_forever

            Count me in, co-counselor

          • acto

            Alright counselors, you send your big dum goon in (me) and make certain they get the message.
            You will of course get me out of jail right? Perhaps I should wait until you both have a substantial lead on me in Cheddar Bay, or I may spend a good deal of time breaking rocks.

  • p_forever

    the redface is truly beyond awful.

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      No red shirt, no problem!

      • p_forever

        :(

  • Shadow_play

    They’re still shitty. Absolutely what I was thinking after the game the other night.
    Those fools in redface were an embarassment as well. The one hope I have for that money-making playoff game, is that tjhe national spotlight on the above racism forces the conversation about Wahoo’s removal. I feel like there has been anincreasing amount of pressure on the Redskins lately at a national level. I want to see the same pressure on the Indians.

  • jamick6000

    “Here’s hoping the Indians get to play one third of their schedule every year against three teams as godawfully horrendous as the 2013 White Sox (99 losses, 18 of them to the Indians), Twins (96 losses, 13 to Cleve), and Astros (111 and 6). This season the Tribe was 55-62 against everyone else…”

    Arbitrarily excluding data in order to support your preconceived ideas … the mark of a truly rigorous analysis.

    • nj0

      From what I’ve read, differences in strength of schedule would amount to about three wins. That’s from the weakest to the easiest (or vice versa). That puts the Indians at 89 wins and out of the playoffs.

      BUT… the Rangers actually had an even easier schedule (thank you Houston and Seattle) so correcting for schedule would still have us ahead of the Yankees and Orioles and in the wild card though maybe not with the home field advantage. (The Rays s.o.s. was comparable to ours though slightly harder.)

      • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

        I think that comparing strength of schedule to that of other “contenders” in any given season is different from the issue of whether a certain team gets to play so many games against three or however many opponents that are as bad as the three mentioned here. It strikes me as something that doesn’t happen every year. And certain teams, like this year’s Indians, will be better at beating cupcakes more consistently than other teams that would nevertheless be more credible title contenders than this year’s Indians because they were able to more consistently beat other title contenders. Do agree that the Rangers were not such a good team this year.

        • nj0

          I’m not disagreeing, just saying that obsessing over the schedule is missing the forest for the trees imo.

          The difference in quality of opponent wasn’t a deciding factor (or at least as important) as the dozen or so other unexpected, random things that won’t happen again next year (Raburn career year, two SPs coming out of nowhere, Kazmir revival, Jimenez being good, etc.).

          I think we were an okay team that overachieved thanks to a confluence of events. Good on the front office, but banking on getting lucky multiple times like that isn’t a long-term consistent winning plan.

          While I respect the front office, they’re going to have to do some heavy lifting in the off-season to prove that they know what they’re doing and to make us a contender.

          • jamick6000

            i think we’re good.

          • nj0

            I do too. Okay-to-good. Still far from great. Lot of things to address this off-season and probably not a lot of money to do it.

          • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

            “I think we were an okay team that overachieved thanks to a confluence of
            events. Good on the front office, but banking on getting lucky multiple
            times like that isn’t a long-term consistent winning plan.”

            Completely agree with this whole comment, except to qualify re: respect for front office personnel who willfully choose to work for Hitler’s favorite baseball team.

          • nj0

            Respect for prowess of doing one’s job. Not Aretha-style r-e-s-p-e-c-t respect.

        • nj0

          Also, I think we were arguably the 6th best team in the AL this year. So while we may have gotten some help from the schedule, I don’t think it was so much that we got in at the expense of some other, more deserving team. The Rangers, Orioles, and Yankees weren’t markedly better than us this year imo.

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      Well I don’t know what it says about the rigorousness of your commenting that I have no idea what data you suppose has been arbitrarily excluded here. Care to share? I’d like to be smart like you.

      • jamick6000

        You picked 3 teams (White Sox, Twins, Astros) and excluded our record against them to get your 55-62.

        • jamick6000

          We were 88-55 if you exclude Detroit… a .600 winning percentage.

          Why iidn’t you exclude our record against the tigers?

          • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

            I didn’t exclude our record against the three terrible teams, I specifically *included* it, and isolated it. Call me crazy, but I think that a sports team’s record against non-godawfully-horrendous teams in the same league is a significant data point in evaluating whether that team is a legitimate title contender. Also, it’s not *my* 55-62, it’s the Indians’ 55-62: their record against all other MLB teams in 2013 excepting three of the horribawfully worst MLB teams you will ever see.

          • jamick6000

            it is your 55-62. You excluded our record against 3 teams. that didn’t happen in the real world.

            Why didn’t you except our record against the tigers?

          • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

            The Tigers are a non-horrendous team. If you don’t agree that looking at a team’s record against non-horrendous teams is a relevant exercise in evaluating its status as a contender there’s nothing I’ll be able to say to convince you.

          • jamick6000

            you’d have a point if, say, we weren’t playing the white sox next year. but we are and you don’t.

      • acto

        “Care to share? I want to be smart like you.”
        No way Frownie, you may never be as smart as 6000, you are almost as dum as I am.

        • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

          This, I’m afraid, is true.

        • jamick6000

          it takes smarts to manipulate information to make it look the best for proving your point, which is what frowns is doing here.

          i’m just looking at the record, not some artificially sliced and diced version.

          • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

            Yes, manipulative and underhanded to look at a team’s record against non-godawfully horrendous teams. What will he slice and dice next?

  • CleveLandThatILove

    So now we have The Slide? What is this place? I am really having a hard time with this one.

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      This place is Cleveland, home of Hitler’s favorite baseball team and the Curse of Chief Wahoo.

  • NeedsFoodBadly

    Everyone will be talking about Freeman, but we do need to do something at running back, maybe? Since Weeden murdered Ogbonnaya, we’re down a bit, and who knows whether he’ll be back next week.

    Rainey did not impress me.

    • Steve White

      I’m always a little amazed at the expressed thought of “you don’t need to draft a RB high, you can always find one in lower rounds or as a free agent.”

      Really? If so where are they right now when we need one? Where’s the legion of quality free-agent RBs sitting by the phone waiting for ‘the call’? We found one who wasn’t half-bad last night for an out of shape old guy, but I’m unaware of any other undrafted Adrian Peterson’s in dry-dock.

      • nj0

        I think that’s an unfair characterization. The point is that the level of talent between most 1st-round RBs and the UFA RBs isn’t as pronounced as other positions.

        Say what you will about McGahee, but we picked him off the street to replace a 1st round pick and our offense looks about the same. You do that with QB, any OL position, CB, LB, etc. and you probably don’t win three in a row.

      • acto

        McGahee had been out of football for a long time, he was admittedly out of shape and he still performed better than a chump the Browns gave up a 2nd round pick to move up one spot to secure.
        How about second round Montnorthwestterritories Hardesty? He cost a second rounder, plus another pick. Where the hell is he?
        The only two RB’s in the 2012 draft worth using a draft pick on were Alfred Morris and Doug Martin, (I posted this before the draft), Martin went at the end of the 1st round and Morris went in the 17th round right after Brian Sipe.
        The Browns TRADED UP two years in a row to take a couple of injuries looking for a place to happen.
        Do you have any evidence??

        • Steve White

          That the Browns managed to draft RBs who weren’t worth the picks does not preclude the possibility that there are RBs who ARE worth a 1st or 2nd round pick, if only one is smart enough to identify them. And I maintain that there are very few decent quality, out-of-football or practice-squad RBs sitting by the phone this afternoon waiting for the Browns to call.

          Yes, yes, Hardesty is also sitting by the phone. If I were him I’d put the phone down and get over to his new job at the Home Depot.

          An excellent RB is worth about as much as an excellent linebacker. You aren’t likely to find another Mingo in the seventh round, waiver wire, practice squad, etc.

          McGahee can fill the spot this year, but the Browns need an upgrade. They aren’t going to find one on the street, so Rainey may be as good as they get.

          • acto

            I certainly see your point Steve, the straw I am grasping at involves “old school” coaches and scouts who still place too much importance in having the best running back. So, there are far too many talented running backs and not enough good Cover Corners or receivers. The difference between a 1st round Cornerback and a 7th round Cornerback is exponentially greater than the difference between a running back taken in the first round and a running back on the waiver wire.

          • Steve White

            I’m not completely sure that the difference between a first round and waiver wire RB is exponentially less (using your words) as for a cover corner or linebacker. For each position you have studs, good enoughs, and not so goods.

            And for each position, RB or cover corner, trying to find a “good enough” on the waiver wire in week 5 is challenging. That’s why the GM gets the money, I suppose, but I don’t hold out much hope of finding a new RB that’s going to out-gain McGahee, Ogbonnaya, or even Rainey. If that guy was out there one of 31 other teams would have picked him up already.

    • joeyjojojrjabadoo

      What about Glittle at running back? They keep trying to figure out ways to get him the ball, his kick returns were flat out awful and passing it to him doesn’t seem to be working… 6’2″ 220lbs. speed, strength. Seems like an Eddie George type.

      -beeej (discuss isn’t working)

      • acto

        Good call! I have been suggesting moving Little to RB for a long time. Right after Gordon dropped a sure TD on the first series, Little completely screwed his easy TD double move route. He just stopped when his defender stopped. Hoyer saw it and threw a sure home run ball. I like Gordon, but he really gets the “Dropsies” when the pressure is on and Little mixes his Duran Hands with either lazy, or clueless route running.

      • NeedsFoodBadly

        I like it. He’s good at blocking downfield, I wonder if he could take some snaps at fullback and do some blocking there too.

  • Jim

    The one game playoff is ridiculous but it felt exactly like the playoffs downtown on Wednesday night. And just like all the other playoff baseball I have experienced in my life, it ended with an Indians loss.

    What is unfortunate for the Indians is there is absolutely no guarantee they get back to 90 wins next year. In fact, I would expect them to regress, especially pitching-wise.

    • nj0

      I was all about the one game playoff until they actually happened. It’s just stupid and frustrating. It goes against the entire spirit of the game. It’s like if the first round of the NFL playoffs was one quarter long.

  • Steve

    I don’t get the mocking of the franchise in town that did figure out how to get to a playoff spot. If the Browns end up 9-7 and sneak into a playoff spot, this town is going to burn cars, and no one is going to be like “they’re still shitty” and mock the crappy division they are in.

    Yeah, get rid of Chief Wahoo, but you sound petty and vindictive when you rip on the fans of this town who enjoy playoff baseball and the team in this town that has done the best job of putting an enjoyable product out there.

    • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

      An organization responsible for Chief Wahoo and “Cleveland Indians” in 2013 deserves all the scorn I can muster, and much more, as does a fanbase that continues to tolerate it.

      The idea that this franchise could be a sustainable contender, less so, of course, though the consumerism/boosterism feedback loop that permeates all of this becomes increasingly loathsome as well as MLB continues to corporatize and globalize.

      You can say I sound petty and vindictive, and I can respond by saying that you sound ignorant and dead inside, but none of that’s really productive, is it?

      • nj0

        you feel so strongly about Wahoo yet still support the meatgrinder that is popwarner/hs/cfb/nfl

        • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

          Yes. The game of football would not be played anywhere in any form were it not for my support, which is all part of my plan to secretly prop up the Wahoo logo so that I have something to write about. You got me. Where do I turn in my credentials?

    • Steve White

      Chief Wahoo has to go. Frownie makes a persuasive case just by showing two pictures side by side.

      I don’t have a problem with ‘Indians’ but I also don’t have a problem with ‘Braves’, ‘Seminoles’, ‘Fighting Sioux’ and ‘Fighting Irish.’ Seems respectful enough to me but what do I know? But if for some reason we can’t use ‘Indians’, the club should go back to being the Cleveland ‘Blues’. I do like the dark blue uniforms.

      • Beeej

        Spiders!

  • Cranky M

    Honest to goodness, about an hour before the game i was explaining to my girlfriend how the Browns had promoted this random QB but that he actually seemed really good, and that he gave them a legit chance at the playoffs.
    I ended by saying “But it’s the Browns, so he’ll probably get seriously injured tonight.”

    Sorry, guys….

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    Matt Flynn cut by Raiders. Browns need to get on this like yesterday.

    • acto

      Good call Frownie, he is one of the four retreads I like!

  • acto

    Perhaps not Matt Flynn,
    Please remember when Peyton Manning started as a rookie he was amazingly awful.
    The speed of the game in the NFL is tremendously different.
    David Carr, or Vince Young could be terrific re-treads. They would beat the hell out of using the Browns’ next 6, 1st round draft choices to get this year’s RG-INJURY.

    • Chris Mc

      “David Carr, or Vince Young could be terrific…”

      Your Texas is showing, Acto.

      • acto

        I did not even think of that. Could it be happening Chris? I am always the smiling benevolent guy in the Browns’ gear, taking all of the guff from the the people who grew up here in Texass, but I am also the first to very calmly light the chumps up if they are disrespectful.
        Please do not label me a Texan, I shall spend months crying like a sissy. I live in Tejas, but I will always love Cleveland first and foremost.
        Please C Mc, say it is not so!

  • Chris Mc

    Not only is Rick Reilly a hack writer, but also a terrible listener as well. It’s also worth pointing out that the guy he misquoted is actually his father-in-law.


    Blackfeet Elder Says Rick Reilly Misquoted Him; Wants ‘Redskins’ Banned

    http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/10/10/blackfeet-elder-says-rick-reilly-misquoted-him-wants-redskins-banned-151696

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