Mayor Jackson was wrong about Ferguson and Cleveland

by Cleveland Frowns on November 25, 2014

Last week, a spokesman for Mayor Frank Jackson brushed off the idea that Cleveland had anything to learn from Ferguson, Missouri, where the killing of an unarmed young black man, Michael Brown, by police has caused massive protests and civil unrest. “Questions about lessons learned from Ferguson and the preparations Cleveland might take ahead of a similarly incendiary incident were unworthy of a response,” said Jackson spokesman Daniel Williams, according to the Plain Dealer’s Brandon Blackwell.

A few days later, a Cleveland police officer shot and killed a 12-year-old black boy, Tamir Rice, allegedly because the officer felt threatened by a realistic looking toy pellet gun that the boy had on his person.

Tamir Rice

The officers were responding to a 911 call reporting “a guy with a pistol” on a swing set at the Cudell Recreation Center on Cleveland’s near west side, pulling the gun from his pants and “scaring the s—t out of everyone.”

The man who called 911 told dispatchers that the “guy” was “probably a juvenile,” and twice said that “the gun was probably fake,” an assumption that was corroborated by … Click here to continue reading at Belt Magazine

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    Related:

    “If we are to take seriously that oppressive policing is not a problem of individual ‘bad apple’ cops then it must follow that a singular indictment will have little to no impact on ending police violence. …
    [O]nly building power among those most marginalized in society holds the possibility of radical transformation. And that’s an endless quest for justice. That’s a struggle rather than a goal. Only movements can build power. We need a movement for transformative justice.

    “To the young people who have taken to the streets across the country and are agitating for some ‘justice’ in this moment, I hope that you don’t invest too deeply in the Ferguson indictment decision. Don’t let a nonindictment crush your spirit and steal your hope. Hope is a discipline.”

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/11/indict-the-system-not-just-darren-wilson/

  • http://www.clevelandfrowns.com/ Cleveland Frowns

    Also, this is a great read by Roldo:

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/23417

    And another one here that’s a long read with a lot of history on the PD and its failures:

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/23388

  • ChuckKoz

    Per usual, you are the best

  • Frank Mayse

    Thanks Pete.

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    Cleveland attorney Christian Grostic on the Ferguson grand jury proceedings (Per Andrew Pollis, appellate law specialist and professor at Case Law’s civil litigation clinic, “Those of you who believe we should respect the grand jury’s decision would do well to read this thoroughly, to see just how tilted the process was.”):

    “[T]his grand jury was conducted unlike virtually every other grand jury in America. I’ve seen a few in the media mention this, but I think it’s worth more discussion.

    “Grand juries typically run one of two ways. Most frequently (90%+ of the time), the prosecutor presents a short summary of evidence, usually through a police officer, maybe with another witness or two, and recommends a charge, and the grand jury agrees. It’s a completely one-sided presentation; there’s no evidence or even mention of defenses the person charged might have; and the person charged often doesn’t know it’s happening, much less is invited to present their defense. The grand jury is told to indict if there’s probable cause to believe the person charged committed a crime, which is less than more-likely-than-not.

    “The second, less common way is typical to white-collar or public-corruption cases. Because the grand jury (but not the prosecutor) has subpoena powers, the prosecutor will use the grand jury to obtain records, maybe bring in a few witnesses, and generally gather evidence about something they suspect is happening. Then, either the prosecutor will abandon the case, or it will convert to the first type of grand jury – the prosecutor will decide that one or more people should be charged, the remaining evidence presented will target those people, and the prosecutor will recommend a charge.

    “The Michael Brown shooting grand jury was run entirely differently: the defense was invited to present their version of events, and no charges were recommended. It’s not at all surprising, then, that they didn’t indict, and it seems to me the whole thing was designed as a cynical show to shirk responsibility – the prosecutor knows he ran this unlike anything else, but hopes the media won’t realize it, and even responded with “how dare you” when asked at the press conference if he had passed responsibility.

    “I’m not sure it’s even a bad thing to run a grand jury this way – a criminal charge and trial is a huge penalty in itself, and the way we generally do things allows a prosecutor to get an indictment even where a person has done nothing wrong. It might be a good thing to allow a fuller presentation of evidence, to allow the grand jury to actually stand between the government and the people. But it isn’t done that way, except in this case.

    “I’ll go so far as to say that any prosecutor in America could have gotten an indictment in this case, if they wanted to. Even from the changing statements (the police chief days after the shooting said Wilson didn’t know Brown was a robbery suspect, but Wilson testified he did) would have been enough for a prosecutor to convince a grand jury to indict, if he wanted to. But he didn’t, and it pisses me off that the prosecutor stood in front of the media, acted self-righteous about the whole thing, and hopes we all won’t understand what he did.”

  • alexb

    Did it ever come out that Tamir’s parents knew he was out with an airsoft pistol? If I had a kid I”d never let him leave the house with it unless he was taking it somewhere on private property and having an airsoft match with friends. On the one hand that cop car should not have pulled up like 10ft away from the kid…had it pulled up 30 or so feet away the kid would have had a chance to pull it out and say hey it’s not real. But he was walking around with it pointing it at people like he was thuggin…..so this is not all on the cop. A white kid got shot years ago cause he actually pointed one of the military style assault rifle airsoft versions at a couple cops. Unfortunately cause where the cop disembarked the car he put himself in a situation where he had to react instantly cause if that gun was real…he was likely dead.

    Now, the Garner case…I’ve taken Brazilian Jiu Jitsu so I know what I’m looking at. 1) It was a choke no ifs ands or buts. 2) It was completely unnecessary as Garner offered no resistance and there were 5 other cops holding him down. I want cops to have that choke in their bag if they need it, but that wasn’t a case where it was even remotely called for.

    3) most importantly, that piece of shit cop Dan Pantaleo knew what he was doing. He started the hold off with his right arm underneath the armpit, nothing wrong there..it’s a half nelson like hold. But as more cops showed up to subdue Garner the filthy little piggy transitioned his right arm out from underneath the armpit to now clasping his left hand with his right..using his right hand/arm to pull on his left hand/arm which essentially torqued the choke deep into Garners throat. All at a time when the big guy was already on his hands and knees offering ‘zero” resistance.

    4) and finally, all the cops knew they ghosted him. If you watch the “after video” on youtube…they’re standing around tapping him saying alright buddy time to get up. They’ve already felt for a pulse and they knew they wren’t getting one. So when EMS showed up, and this is indicative of an agreement the NYPD has with EMS, the EMS backed up the officers by also tapping Garner and doing nothing more than taking a pulse. If they had started resuscitation proceedings when they arrived perhaps Garner would still be alive but it would also have highlighted the fact that what the cops did to him was the reason he had to be resuscitated. The way it played out they can say he died later on from “complications” instead of at the scene.

    Filthy filthy filthy filthy. I hope to god someone someday finds this little piece of shit and ghosts him https://media2.wnyc.org/i/620/372/c/80/1/nypd_dan_pantaleo_1.jpg

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